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Firefox Internet Security Issue

HaHa I said:
Its worth noting there was 3 years of paid support for 7 after 2020 and its not hard to get those updates these days, think of it as the pos 2009 patch for xp. Not that I would recommend ether.
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All my Windows 7 32-bit machines are updated to October 2024, and 64-bit to January 2026. These updates are easy to find and add, it just takes a while to do.
Still using Windows 7 machines for internet and email on a daily basis.
 
If you happen to buy cheap IoT devices, those have been known to come with back-doors installed and may operate as a proxy or VPN endpoint for those sketchy VPN services you can sign up for. Think of those cheap streaming boxes that don't have a subscription fee, yet you can access all sorts of TV shows, or some unknown brand of security camera.

That type of thing can also degrade the reputation of your IP address, causing you to have issues logging into sits that care about that sort of thing (which is getting to be a lot of the internet these days).
 
Bentendo64 said:
cheap streaming boxes that don't have a subscription fee, yet you can access all sorts of TV shows
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I played around with those services a few years back.

It's worth noting that a lot of those services often use legal publicly available sources albeit sometimes in less than a legal manner. Some local broadcast stations stream on their sites or somewhere online that might not be advertised openly, others forward the rewatch/look back option some cable providers have and so on, some shows are freely available on their websites too, last I look south park is and many other sites for shows and channels have clips on them. Others just flat out pull form unlisted or even listed videos on youtube or other youtube like sites like ok.ru, myretrotvs does that. So from a IP reputation stand point it might look ok even when it might not be. A lot of it is just repackaging stuff thats openly advible on the surface level of the web. Now if its pulling the shows from torrents or fmovies or a known rogue pricay version of netflix yeah that's going to look suspicious. Not that its hard to change a IP address, sometimes its as simple as rebooting the modem/router. The real problem is when your ISP gets a notice that your IP is being used to pirate something and thats realy only a thing with torrents as there is no way for the copyright holder to know whose watching stuff on youtube or totalylegalnetxflix.ru in a maner that can legaly be diriectly linked to a end user.
 
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Robbbert said:
I do not know what any of that means. All I can say is it's Firefox 152 made to work on Vista / 7 / 8 / 8.1 . Gets updated every few months in line with official Firefox, but you have to download and install the new version manually - there's no automatic updates.

It's a great thing especially for Vista, as it has no other browser that's even remotely up to date.
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How about HTTPS sites?
 
HaHa I said:
if https does not work what would be the point, very few sites have a http option anymore.
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That was my point. When you can simply get on the internet with some ancient browser it's like starting your Model T with the first turn of the crank. Then what?
 
HaHa I said:
Its worth noting there was 3 years of paid support for 7 after 2020 and its not hard to get those updates these days, think of it as the pos 2009 patch for xp. Not that I would recommend ether.
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Sure, but that's Microsoft providing bug fixes and security updates.

It isn't third party application developers promising to continue shipping new releases of their applications in a compatible form for those operating systems.
 
Quagmire said:
That was my point. When you can simply get on the internet with some ancient browser it's like starting your Model T with the first turn of the crank. Then what?
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hey, I feel attacked, I daily drive old cars 😆 ok ok not model T old but no newer then 40 years old.
 
Istarian said:
Sure, but that's Microsoft providing bug fixes and security updates.

It isn't third party application developers promising to continue shipping new releases of their applications in a compatible form for those operating systems.
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surprisingly 3rd party support for 7-10 isn't as bad as you'd think. more or less everything works on 10 and it's not hard to find software for 7/8 and kernel extension are a thing. I had to support a bunch of win7 systems at work until early this year, just took the last one out 2 months ago. wile 7 is definitely showing it's age to say the least it's still definitely usable if you don't mind some compromises, fan made software, work arounds like kernel extensions or just use it for basic stuff. at the end of the day most software for 10 can be made to run on 7 with some tweaking if not there's probably an alternative
 
HaHa I said:
surprisingly 3rd party support for 7-10 isn't as bad as you'd think. more or less everything works on 10 and it's not hard to find software for 7/8 and kernel extension are a thing. I had to support a bunch of win7 systems at work until early this year, just took the last one out 2 months ago. wile 7 is definitely showing it's age to say the least it's still definitely usable if you don't mind some compromises, fan made software, work arounds like kernel extensions or just use it for basic stuff. at the end of the day most software for 10 can be made to run on 7 with some tweaking if not there's probably an alternative
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All I'm saying is that you shouldn't rely on it continuing to be usable for web browsing or any other online service targeting current generation systems.

So-called 'Kernel Extensions' are almost universally hacks of a kind that tacks stuff on that was never officially supported by that OS version. Therefore they should be treated with caution as they may cause instability or break compatibility with older software in the process of trying to make newer software work.

PS

Even Windows XP and Windows 2000 (or say Mac OS 9) are still quite usable for many truly basic computer tasks and contemporary games which have no online component. That isn't really saying all that much.
 
xp and 2k are still usable for online stuff too... modern version of chrome work fine on it, and no offense but you clearly never used kernel extension if you think they're unstable or brake support for older software... you have to manually enable it via a shortcut on a per app basis, saying it brakes older apps is like saying windows compatibility mode brakes newer apps when it's not used...
 
HaHa I said:
xp and 2k are still usable for online stuff too... modern version of chrome work fine on it, and no offense but you clearly never used kernel extension if you think they're unstable or brake support for older software... you have to manually enable it via a shortcut on a per app basis, saying it brakes older apps is like saying windows compatibility mode brakes newer apps when it's not used...
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If you stick to official releases, patches, and updates they really aren't suitable for online stuff.

And even with unofficial updates, kernel extensions, etc they may still have security holes that could lead to your system being compromised. The risk isn't massive, but it isn't trivial either.

The fact that you have to manually enable something on a per app basis means that the authors are clearly aware of the potential for problems. If you stick to software that others have already tested you probably won't notice any issues.

A brake is something you used to slow down a moving vehicle or object, the word you are looking for is break.
 
I just skimmed through this article, kind of interesting.


It seems like these days, if you're using any browser or OS version over a year or two old, you're going to get challenged and denied by many websites.
I really hope forums like we have here can stay open through all this.
I also hope to be able to continue browsing the internet with 10-15 year old hardware. But I suppose, if there's nothing interesting to see, why bother...
 
Bentendo64 said:
I just skimmed through this article, kind of interesting.


It seems like these days, if you're using any browser or OS version over a year or two old, you're going to get challenged and denied by many websites.
I really hope forums like we have here can stay open through all this.
I also hope to be able to continue browsing the internet with 10-15 year old hardware. But I suppose, if there's nothing interesting to see, why bother...
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interesting because most of my web usage is with iso15 on a iphone 5se. I almost never if at all get denied or a spam chapha thingy
 
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