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IBM PS/2 Model 60/80 floppy drive

This is the place to sell IBM PS/2s

This is the place to sell IBM PS/2s

I noticed user worldexpress attempting to sell a new IBM PS/2 Model 80 on eBay weeks ago, so I suggested that he come here to this forum instead. I knew these would be of interest to our community considering they are essentially new. I also don't see too many Model 80s (or 60s) for sale on eBay or elsewhere.

I will admit I didn't expect many of you to buy one, because I was under the impression Models 60 and 80 are very heavy and so the shipping cost might be too much. Apparently they are not that heavy.

I hope the seller found some value coming here, and I hope he will do so again if he comes across any interesting vintage and legacy computers.
 
Allen said:
I will admit I didn't expect many of you to buy one, because I was under the impression Models 60 and 80 are very heavy and so the shipping cost might be too much. Apparently they are not that heavy.
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Actually, these computers are very heavy. The cost would depend on how far you are from the shipper. There are apparently many of us that are interested in the IBM PS/2 line and some of us already have several PS/2's.
I don't have a Model 60 and would interested in one if it comes avaliable.

Allen said:
I hope the seller found some value coming here, and I hope he will do so again if he comes across any interesting vintage and legacy computers.
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I hope so too!
 
I did some estimates on getting one shipped to me in Nevada. Likely would be close to $100 if I had the monitor shipped too. I couldn't justify getting one.
 
Floppy Drive anyone?

Floppy Drive anyone?

I bought one of the systems, and the floppy drive seems to have gone bad. Does anyone have a Model 60 or 80 floppy drive to spare??

-Brandon
 
IBM PS/2 Model 60/80 floppy drive

I need a floppy drive for my brand-new IBM Model 80 386. Anyone out there have one for sale?
 
I don't have one, but I can tell you a few others that got this system are having the same problems. I hope mine's OK when I get it tomorrow, but I've got an extra system that needs an HDD I can part out if I must, for now.

--Ryan
 
Ryan's PS/2 80

Ryan's PS/2 80

http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/UniversalRiot/IBM%20PS2%2080/

There's my IBM PS/2 Model 80. I invite you all to join my club, the IBM PS/2(80) owner's club. It's an exclusive club for IBM PS/2 owner's. It came to me while unboxing my IBM PS/2 80, which, by the way, looks fantastic.

As expected, it came up with a 601 error--FDD failed power-on diagnostics. I will replace the drive in a moment with a compatable drive. The smell of NOS IBM is great. Yes, I realize that these machines were refurbs(checks machine back for sticker)..yup, a refurb. But by condition and cleanliness, and the fact that there isn't a smudge on it, I'm willing to say that when IBM had to redo a computer, they did just that. They seem to have replaced all internal components with fresh new ones, and by the looks of it, the case to. The old components were likely either recycled or sent through to be totally tested and redone, and either the same components or already tested ones were then put in the computer. Thats my guess anyhow.

The keys it came with have a keychain, enscribed:

REXNORD-CAMILOC
601 Route 45 West
Hasbrouck Heights, NJ 07604

Anyone recognize the address? I take it thats either the original owner or a keymaker. Still, this thing was in a sealed box, so I'm sure it was never used.

The geniuses at IBM included many duplicates, such as keyboard cables and setup guides. I got two Reference books as well. One is in the standard booklet with all the info and disk, the other, without the "And Reference DIskette" on the manual has holes-punched so you can put it in a binder. I was almost dissapointed not to find two computers, or at least two keyboards. LOL.

Anyone know how to get this drive out? In my other PS/2 you pulled up on a tab and it came out. Can't get this one to budge.
EDIT: Let it be noted the necessary information for this was in the Quick Ref. When all else fails, read the manual!

--Ryan
http://vintage-computer.com/vcforum/group.php?groupid=4
 
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I got a disk drive installed. I took the one out of my PS/2 70 with a dead HDD and installed it. It's not pretty, as there is no faceplate. I wanted to install one, but this drive is just slightly longer, and if I could get it to go back 1/5 inch I KNOW I could have one installed. I tried everything though, and just couldn't get it to go. Oh well. It doesn't look that bad, and being under the desk, I don't have to look at it anyways. I do, though, and nearly crap myself everytime I realize it's MINE.

Currently I am upgrading my IBM DOS 5.0(That I installed myself, just ask for images) to DOS 6.0, then to 6.2, then to 6.22. I have to have 6.2 to install 6.22, so go figure. Afterwards, I will install Windows 3.11 and some games.

I don't think I mentioned it above, but I've said it elsewhere. The reason I don't have a monitor is because I don't have any money to ship it. BUT, whenever I get the money, if it's still around, I'll have a NOS monitor, too. For now, I am using an 8513 that came with my other PS/2.

I am overall happy about the deal on this system, even if the FDD doesn't work for some reason. I don't know why. The motor spins the corkscrew freely, and the heads track to 0 when I put them as far as I can. Heads look fine as well. Ideas? No capacitors are leaking on it, so thats about as far as I can go here. I may look at the Hardware Service Manual just in case it has anything. At least I have a working system now though, even if it's face is distorted.

--Ryan
 
Mitsubishi drives

Mitsubishi drives

Do you have any idea which capacitors are "bad?" I see about seven of them, none are leaking.
 
Did your drive work before? I got my system in today and the drive doesn't work. If you see the thread "Ryan's PS/2 80" under "Later PCs" you'll read that I got a drive installed, though. If you're not looking for a pretty fix but want to be able to use your system, you can pull the drive out of any card-edge-connecting PS/2 and get it to work. I had to remove the mount off my drive to get it in, then to stop the rubbing the spindle was doing on the metal chassis, I had to pop the mounter on the original drive and slide it in. No faceplate, though, as the drive stuck out a bit too far. Do you have any extra drives to do this with?

Hoping for a fix or a new drive soon! I want this thing to be showcaseable!

--Ryan
BTW, my caps look fine, too.
 
Yzzerdd said:
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I got a disk drive installed. I took the one out of my PS/2 70 with a dead HDD and installed it. It's not pretty, as there is no faceplate. I wanted to install one, but this drive is just slightly longer, and if I could get it to go back 1/5 inch I KNOW I could have one installed. I tried everything though, and just couldn't get it to go. Oh well. It doesn't look that bad, and being under the desk, I don't have to look at it anyways. I do, though, and nearly crap myself everytime I realize it's MINE.

Currently I am upgrading my IBM DOS 5.0(That I installed myself, just ask for images) to DOS 6.0, then to 6.2, then to 6.22. I have to have 6.2 to install 6.22, so go figure. Afterwards, I will install Windows 3.11 and some games.

I don't think I mentioned it above, but I've said it elsewhere. The reason I don't have a monitor is because I don't have any money to ship it. BUT, whenever I get the money, if it's still around, I'll have a NOS monitor, too. For now, I am using an 8513 that came with my other PS/2.

I am overall happy about the deal on this system, even if the FDD doesn't work for some reason. I don't know why. The motor spins the corkscrew freely, and the heads track to 0 when I put them as far as I can. Heads look fine as well. Ideas? No capacitors are leaking on it, so thats about as far as I can go here. I may look at the Hardware Service Manual just in case it has anything. At least I have a working system now though, even if it's face is distorted.

--Ryan
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Hey Ryan,

If this will help, in a move of bravery or perhaps sheer stupidity, I decided to pull the logic board off of my only functional drive and try it on one of the new ones. Good news, the drive mechanics appear to be fine. Passed all ref tests. I'll do the same with the other drive soon, but so far it looks to be an electronics problem. Something I am NOT qualified to repair!
 
Well in MY sheer stupidity, when I took off the drive board to look into the mechanics of the drive(which seemed fine), I didn't note where the cord to the LEFT of the drive card edge went. Rather, there is some sort of black object attached to it. Where does it go? Could you upload some closeups of this object? I thought it might be a sensor but cannot find where it goes.

Installing Windows 3.11 on mine--disk 6.

--Ryan
 
They are probably a run of NODS (New Old Defective Stock) that were shipped and returned to IBM because of a bad run of floppy drives.

Since a tear down and repair/retest of the units would not economically feasible if the had a ton of the units ready to ship already, they probably got stockpiled and, eventually, sold off for next to nothing.

You people are obsessed with capacitors. I've got stuff that has been sitting, unused, in unheated garages in Canada for 20 years and you power them up and away they go.

Formed capacitors will last a long, long time without degrading.
 
caps

caps

Druid6900 said...You people are obsessed with capacitors
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I think it's because they're easy to replace, and electrolytes especially will almost never read the value printed on the can anyway, since they tend to have pretty wide tolerances, but it's something to point at and go 'ooh, that don't look to good', so it's satisfying to be able to do something.

If I get something new & strange, I might check the caps out, but stuff that I've had for ages I'll power up. I've had people tell me electrolytic caps freeze if they get too cold. Go figure.
Caps are a lot more robust than people give them credit for, at least ones in computers. If you're talking about old paper-style ones that run at high voltage, like in old tube equipment, that's a slightly different story, but they're pretty sturdy, too.
Back in the day when I used to repair TV's & other consumer gear, the most trouble I had with caps was with equipment that a customer would bring in after having taken it to another repair shop, worked fine for a few months, then bang.
I'd open the unit up, and nine times out ten it would be a cap in the horizontal section that had shorted because the other shop stuck a generic cap in there. Caps have all sorts of different characteristics other than the voltage rating and capacitance, and if you don't know what you're doing, or take the time to do a bit of research, you can really screw stuff up.

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