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I bought a school bus..

falter

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Started off as just a curiosity, then became a vintage vehicle thing (was into vintage cars long before I was into vintage computers), and then became a solution to my lack of space for a proper Youtube studio. Anyway, a few weeks ago I bought this.. it's a 1966 Blue Bird school bus, about 22 feet long, on a Dodge/Fargo chassis. And it's what I've been working on for about a month now, hence why I haven't been here. It was a Bed and Breakfast before and had a bathroom attached to the emergency exit. Funny enough, the people I bought it from are Tiktokkers with 1M followers called The Ugly Truckling. It gives me about 150 square feet of 'man cave' space that I don't share with birds, upstairs plumbing noise, etc.

Anyway this is the Blue Duck as a previous owner named it. I'm experimenting with RGB lighting. One thing I'm being very conscious of is fire risk. The bus was wired up for permanent AC power (the breaker box was probably in the bathroom shed). I'd like to get it running, so I'm not sure if I'm going to try and go fancy with solar or to what degree I'll get the original electrical system working. I've got two heavy duty extension cords, one is on a GFCI protected circuit by itself running an oil filled radiator heater, the other also on another GFCI protected circuit which handles the lights and whatever computer I'm working with. I should probably figure out the amperage draw but so far nothing hot, dim or any signs of stress. Both circuits are 15amp.

I think this was converted to B&B use in the 1990s based on dates on plywood used in its construction. The rest of its history is unknown, although based on the dual block heater and massive tow hooks on the front and back I'm thinking somewhere very cold and snowy up north. I'm having to learn a fair bit about trucks as I go, as I've never owned a real (vs pickup) truck. Learned about suicide rims, tubed tires, hand brakes, granny gear and so on.

The interior is all cedar. It had a metric ton of rats nest under the hood and into the cabin behind some cabinets whoever converted it built, but we got it cleaned up pretty well. It has a Chrysler 318 poly that turns over by hand.

Sometimes in between repairs, I find myself just sitting at the steering wheel on my improvised seat (the original was removed). I wonder where this bus served and what became of the driver(s). Sometimes I sit by the same window a then child or teen looked out of in the late 60s, someone now my parents' age, riding back and forth to school when It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown was still a new cartoon.

Anyway, here's a few pics. Back to work!
 

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When are you driving that to VCF? 🤪🔧
I wish you the best of luck with your new wheels. I know others who have taken on bus-sized new vehicles and I'm totally happy with an 80's station wagon.
 
Rats nests are always a problem on these old engines, they're the perfect environment for rodents, being a confined space with ample room for them to build nests in.

I always throw several of those green rat poison blocks on top of my engine block, in the valley between the TBI and rocker covers. As long as I replenish them, the rodents stay dead and I don't have to deal with chewed wires, or piles of random detritus. One time a squirrel tried to take up residence in my engine, and had quite literally stuffed every square inch of space with acorns a foot deep. That was the one time I forgot to replace the blocks that had been eaten up.

Something else they love destroying are fuel lines. One day I went to start my truck and it wouldn't start, then I smelled fuel. Looked out my side view mirror to see a steam of fuel shooting out from my wheel well. Rodents had chewed a 3 foot section of fuel line from the sending unit on the top of the fuel tank to the fuel rail on the frame. I fixed this, but they did it thrice more, and I was so mad that I armored my fuel lines with tightly wound coils of aluminum wire. They never did it again after that.

Much later when I was cleaning the yard, I kicked over a bucket that was against the fence and found where those assholes had been nesting AND every piece of fuel line they had chewed off mixed in their detritus nest. We got an army of cats shortly thereafter, and that further thinned out the rodent population.

As for the AC power, I think the more fire hazard is that monster alternator and super sketch lamp cords going to what looks like a voltage regulator. I'm guessing at some point, the bus had a beefy inverter or something for mobile power. I'd say take care of that if you plan on driving it anywhere, or running the engine. Those electrical system mods are a quick way to get boiled batteries or melty wires and fire from bad wiring.
 
Both rats and chipmunks here. I had a rather expensive repair to the house because some chipmunks managed to get in through a very small hole in the siding that was used for plumbing. Filled the wall for several feet with cherry pits and other seeds. Fortunately, my dog now patrols the area and kills the buggers if she can run them down.
 
Chipmunks are evil. I cant have an outdoor garden because they burrow under it and eat the root of everything leaving dead plants above. They block up my underground rain gutter drains with nests. They dig tunnels everywhere which leaves holes and dead lawn (dries out and dies if tunnels under it).

My property has one of those old new England property line walls all around it and those rock walls house hundreds if not more of those chipmunks. I tried electric traps but they breed faster than I can catch them.
 
I'm not sure if these were rats or squirrels. The turds looked like rat, but there were huge (relative to rats) branches shoved in there. It was more like a beaver dam than most rats nests I've seen. I have trouble believing rats could manoeuvre sticks twice their size, but maybe..
 
Honda makes an anti-rodent tape for wiring harnesses, it might be worth trying out. There's not much you can do if you are constantly assaulted by swarms of the bastards though. Adopt a barn cat :)
We had an old Ford Expedition parked in the laneway prior. Constantly was removing nests and when we sold it, the new owner had a friend driving behind him who observed rats jumping out of it on the highway. Stubborn!
 
Chipmunks are evil. I cant have an outdoor garden because they burrow under it and eat the root of everything leaving dead plants above. They block up my underground rain gutter drains with nests. They dig tunnels everywhere which leaves holes and dead lawn (dries out and dies if tunnels under it).

My property has one of those old new England property line walls all around it and those rock walls house hundreds if not more of those chipmunks. I tried electric traps but they breed faster than I can catch them.
I don't see too many of those where I live in BC. Tons of rats, eastern squirrels. And bears. Used to be in awe of bears. Now I just see them as super-sized raccoons.
 
Because it came with desiccated body in the back?

Very cool. You have to make this a mobile vintage computing rig and drive it to events now.. Dont cry about it, you opened this can of worms!
Have a ways to go i think before it moves under its own power again. And it's currently on 20 inch wheels which use tubed bias ply tires which are not easy to get ones hands on these days. Oh and the brake pedal goes to the floor and stays there..
 
Rats nests are always a problem on these old engines, they're the perfect environment for rodents, being a confined space with ample room for them to build nests in.

I always throw several of those green rat poison blocks on top of my engine block, in the valley between the TBI and rocker covers. As long as I replenish them, the rodents stay dead and I don't have to deal with chewed wires, or piles of random detritus. One time a squirrel tried to take up residence in my engine, and had quite literally stuffed every square inch of space with acorns a foot deep. That was the one time I forgot to replace the blocks that had been eaten up.

Something else they love destroying are fuel lines. One day I went to start my truck and it wouldn't start, then I smelled fuel. Looked out my side view mirror to see a steam of fuel shooting out from my wheel well. Rodents had chewed a 3 foot section of fuel line from the sending unit on the top of the fuel tank to the fuel rail on the frame. I fixed this, but they did it thrice more, and I was so mad that I armored my fuel lines with tightly wound coils of aluminum wire. They never did it again after that.

Much later when I was cleaning the yard, I kicked over a bucket that was against the fence and found where those assholes had been nesting AND every piece of fuel line they had chewed off mixed in their detritus nest. We got an army of cats shortly thereafter, and that further thinned out the rodent population.

As for the AC power, I think the more fire hazard is that monster alternator and super sketch lamp cords going to what looks like a voltage regulator. I'm guessing at some point, the bus had a beefy inverter or something for mobile power. I'd say take care of that if you plan on driving it anywhere, or running the engine. Those electrical system mods are a quick way to get boiled batteries or melty wires and fire from bad wiring.
The province of Alberta has the right idea - no quarter for rats. Supposedly peppermint and blinking lights deter.. but I'm not confident creating a Starbucks disco under the hood would really work.
 
I don't see too many of those where I live in BC. Tons of rats, eastern squirrels. And bears. Used to be in awe of bears. Now I just see them as super-sized raccoons.
Bears are great until they break something. My new $85.00 peach tree... A tantern arm with a bird feeder.. etc. etc.

The worst is the garbage they mess about.. but at the end of the day we moved into thier space.... They are just reminding us.

I recommend the electric traps and peanut butter. For me the issue was They couldnt get wet. If you have it under the hood or in the corner or even tucked up under the fender it will be fine.
 
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