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Chuck(G) said:
Have you noticed how the world seems to have gone crazy about the delivery mechanism and seems to be ignoring content? Sort of like getting 3D HD with Dolby sound and watching "The Biggest Loser" as the only choice.

More and more I seem to be looking at archive.org to find valuable content that's plain vanished.
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Exactly...it's why the whole HTML5 canvas thing drives me crazy, I know it's a better solution than Flash, but it's like taking a rusted, jam-prone assault rifle away from a toddler and giving them a shiny new one...it's missing the real problem.
 
I post this from Firefox 1.0 on my iMac G4 "sunflower" running OS X 10.1. (I know, I should upgrade it.) It's navigation on the forum is kind of slow, but there's too many popups asking to run scripting items and accepting certificates.
 
DOS lives on!! said:
I post this from Firefox 1.0 on my iMac G4 "sunflower" running OS X 10.1. (I know, I should upgrade it.) It's navigation on the forum is kind of slow, but there's too many popups asking to run scripting items and accepting certificates.
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You might try 10.4 and TenFourFox - it's surprisingly usable even on an older machine (though you really want a G4, even though they provide a G3-optimized version.) Add NoScript into the mix and you're pretty much good to go.
 
Does a G4 work with OS X 10.4? I know it needs more RAM, but I don't have much that fits it. I wish they made a ramcard for Macs so I could add more.

I've got some older browsers, and if they'll work with Windows 98, I'll try posting with them. (Haven't installed a network card on my 95 box yet.)
 
10.4 will run on a G3 with 512MB, though it's a bit balky with that little. An iMac G4 with 1-2GB suits it just fine. (The 800MHz models can get up to 1GB PC133, 1GHZ+ models up to 2GB DDR, but you have to open up the base unit completely as they've only made the SODIMM slot user-accessible; there's a full DIMM slot on the opposite side of the motherboard for the other half. Completely worth it, though.)
 
FWIW posting on here using P200MMX using a 4 gig hdd, running RH Linux 7.3 with WindowMaker,256 megs of ram and Opera 8.x is easily done. Same with using OS/2 v4 running Firebird on the same machine. Must give the RicsPC a shot sometime to see how that goes.
 

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DOS lives on!! said:
Does a G4 work with OS X 10.4? I know it needs more RAM, but I don't have much that fits it. I wish they made a ramcard for Macs so I could add more.
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Yes 10.4 works fine on G4s. You can even run 10.5 if the G4 is 800Mhz or faster. You can run a modern version of Firefox and Flash 11 on Windows 98SE with KernelEx. Its surprisingly usable on a 500Mhz K6-2 with 128MB of RAM.
 
commodorejohn said:
Exactly...it's why the whole HTML5 canvas thing drives me crazy, I know it's a better solution than Flash, but it's like taking a rusted, jam-prone assault rifle away from a toddler and giving them a shiny new one...it's missing the real problem.
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LOL I love it. Agreed
 
Caluser2000 said:
A bit dated but Nathen L. has a very nice dedication section to FF 1.5 http://toastytech.com/guis/ff15t.html
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I've been using Firefox 1.5 as my general web browser since it was released, and I've yet to find a reason to switch to something else. It's just that much lighter and more responsive than any of the later versions. The few sites I follow that don't work in it I use K-Meleon for.
 
what id like to see, and maybe if i had the programming intensive background, develop, would be a website/bb/chat/etc that you could post to literally with anything you could network. more than likely that would have to be done with individual apps written for each type of machine you were using it from, and had a universal formatting code that wasnt javascript, etc. probably all text entry with certain universal formatting codes.

if you open-sourced it to everyone to write a client for the type of machine they specialize in, it may not take too long.

would definitely be a interesting project. sort of like creating a hub for ALL machines, great and small. haha.

maybe im just babbling here.
 
commodorejohn said:
I've been using Firefox 1.5 as my general web browser since it was released, and I've yet to find a reason to switch to something else. It's just that much lighter and more responsive than any of the later versions. The few sites I follow that don't work in it I use K-Meleon for.
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I hadn't heard of K-Melon, but I see it came out in 2000 and current version is 2010.

I like FF 1.5 because it is pretty functional and runs on a whole lot less memory than newer versions and can be used on old computers like a PIII. I've even run it quite successfully on 256K, although it takes 10 minutes to load. That said, it's not very old, having come out at the end of 2005. The only real downfall is that there is no version of flash for it, and of course some add-ons which you might need to get work done, are not available for that version any more. Anyway, you don't really need flash unless you live in the boonies like me where there are no over-the-air radio stations.
 
Browsing in text mode won't get much better than this screenshot using lynx:

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It is doable, but the useful text (the content) is lost in the sea of irrelevant text for the trillion menus and options the forum software pastes all over the page. So it's doable, and fast, but very uncomfortable because it's hard to find the content.

So for text mode browsing, the javascript is not the problem (lynx seems to ignore most of it), but the "noise" of the "extra" text surrounding the useful text.
 
Pepinno said:
So for text mode browsing, the javascript is not the problem (lynx seems to ignore most of it), but the "noise" of the "extra" text surrounding the useful text.
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The problem with the QNX demo using Voyager is that I don't see any way to disable the use of JS, so errors just keep popping up, one after the other.

Any clues?
 
Ole Juul said:
I hadn't heard of K-Melon, but I see it came out in 2000 and current version is 2010.

I like FF 1.5 because it is pretty functional and runs on a whole lot less memory than newer versions and can be used on old computers like a PIII. I've even run it quite successfully on 256K, although it takes 10 minutes to load. That said, it's not very old, having come out at the end of 2005. The only real downfall is that there is no version of flash for it, and of course some add-ons which you might need to get work done, are not available for that version any more. Anyway, you don't really need flash unless you live in the boonies like me where there are no over-the-air radio stations.
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Eh? Flash 11.1 works just fine in Firefox 1.5.0.12 for me...
 
10 minutes to load Firefox on a PIII just doesn't seem to gel either. It loads quicker than that on a PII 300 running Win98 with 256 megs of ram. I suspect it's a Linux issue. Maybe Opera would be a better option?

Edit:Maybe it's just a crappy PIII mobo.
 
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Wow, I haven't seen this yet, Warpzilla, Firefox for OS/2, similar to what TenFourFox is. It wouldn't run under OS/2 Warp 3, but I'll try it out with Warp 4 later today. They also have a flash extension for it.
 
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