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Mining at home

Ole Juul

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I was doing a bit of local mining. Now to put this in perspective, each floor of my "house" is 1000 square feet and I live on the top floor with my wonderful lady. Typically I go to the basement to dig out stuff because over half of that is computers and electronics - pretty much all vintage.

So, I got a bee in my bonnet about digging up an original copy of MS-DOS 6.22. I've been running that since it came out but haven't seen the original disks for years. They were pretty much giving them away at one point, so perhaps I'm even imagining things. Anyway, there was indeed some cases of 5.25 in the dungeon. Those were ones that people had given me years ago so I hadn't looked at them before.

There was a lot of software from the '83 to '88 era but most of it was copies. There was Smartmodem II from '83 and Xtalk from '85, carboncopy and some other standard stuff from the era. Still interesting. But there was also an original copy of AT&T MS-DOS ver3.30 Rel 1.01. I wonder what's different with the AT&T version.

However, I was just getting started. Checking old notes, I saw that there was probably disks in at least three boxes on the main floor. You have to realize that I'm not a normal person. The main floor of the old 1912 general store is completely full of my boxes of stuff in various stages of unpacking. After half an hour I found the right corner for the types of boxes I was looking for. After digging through stuff and clearing off the top layer of other antiques and interesting items. Some useful electronics parts that I can use soon and cool memorabilia. (Working the main floor is basically placer mining, but it has it's own set of logistics.) One of the things which waylaid me was copies of the Silicon Gulch and related literature from the First West Coast Computer Fair (1977). Even the train ticket I had bought to get there. It was quite a dig down memory lane. Anyway, there were indeed disks under the first couple of layers.

I was on the hunt for originals and not disappointed. There was IBM diagnostics 1.02, PC-DOS 2.10, MS-DOS ver3.30A with GW-Basic 3.22 included. Also Microsoft Word 3.1 which says it requires 192K memory. There were a few other gems, but the real nugget was an original IBM PC-DOS 1.1. That was with my old personal disks from way back. I didn't even know I had that, but it made the whole excavation worth while.

There might be a couple of games too that I could give to someone, but the boxes were damaged. Also some 3.5" disks, including a slightly ratty set of Win3.1 and a clean set of 25 disk set of MS-Word 4.2. If anybody wants to trade a DOS 6.22 disk for those I'd be into it. Even if somebody had a 6.22 original to just sell me it would be good, because I still didn't accomplish my original goal.
 
a clean set of 25 disk set of MS-Word 4.2.

And they didn't seem to think there was anything wrong about that. So now I know why the installation of any M$ product is so longeish. Thanks god for CD-ROM, otherwise I can't even imagine how installing a modern M$ Windows would look like...
 
And they didn't seem to think there was anything wrong about that. So now I know why the installation of any M$ product is so longeish. Thanks god for CD-ROM, otherwise I can't even imagine how installing a modern M$ Windows would look like...

Thats because it was a 25 disk set to install Office 4.2, not Word.
 
Ole, I know exactly how you feel regarding your mining expedition. I go through something quite like it regularly. :) Lately I've learned that while mining it's advantageous to group like items together to make future mining expeditions more fruitful.

Anyway, on a recent mining trip I came across some older, original disks and CDs. Among them was the MS DOS 6.2 pictured here. I also found some copies of WIN 95 CDs, some with manuals, some with Certificate of Authenticity. I even found a virgin copy of WIN 95-B, AKA OSR2, still shrinkwrapped. I don't know if you'd be interested in the 6.2 as it's not 6.22 but I thought I'd throw it out there, just in case.


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Thats because it was a 25 disk set to install Office 4.2, not Word.

You're absolutely right. Sorry, I'm not so clear on the difference but I just checked the disks and it does indeed say Microsoft Office down the side of the label. 1994 is not really vintage, but perhaps somebody wants them anyway. I hate to reformatting disks that somebody could use. The Word 3.1 5.25" disk from 1986 is a keeper though. :)
 
Ole, I know exactly how you feel regarding your mining expedition. I go through something quite like it regularly. :) Lately I've learned that while mining it's advantageous to group like items together to make future mining expeditions more fruitful.

Anyway, on a recent mining trip I came across some older, original disks and CDs. Among them was the MS DOS 6.2 .. .

I've been gathering computer stuff together lately. I came across a box full of (yet more!) drives, only there were not only 360K floppies, but about 5 full hight, and full hight HDDs too. They look a bit ragged, but I'll have fun testing them one of these years. That stuff takes a while.

As for software, that's easy to sort. I cull through to pull out the valuables which will go in a proper accessible place. Then the ones that look damaged or don't read go in a box for future formatting or discard. The ones in the middle that have software of possible interest get put in one place, but not necessarily easy to look through. That's the compromise for now. Oh, and the few manuals and boxes get gathered up in one place too.

DOS 6.0 sounds interesting. I'm really only using 6.22 because I did a long time ago. I'm not entirely sure that there is any difference. Yes, I know about Doublespace, but I don't use that nor any but a couple of the utilities. The basic OS files would give a hint about any difference.

IO.SYS 40,774 bytes
MSDOS.SYS 38,138 bytes
COMMAND.COM 54,656 bytes
 
Good thing you keep writing messages, as it indicates you haven't been trapped in your mine. Well of course, you might've brought a laptop with a good battery and wireless network but I suppose you'd try to bring attention to other people than us at the forum if you were stuck down there. ;-)
 
And they didn't seem to think there was anything wrong about that. So now I know why the installation of any M$ product is so longeish. Thanks god for CD-ROM, otherwise I can't even imagine how installing a modern M$ Windows would look like...
I knew it would come to that when I lost my Office 97 CD. It took 44 disks to install, taking up 1 hour and 10 minutes! I bet Office 2007 would be over 150-200 disks.
 
It wasn't much different for installing OS/2--lots and lots of floppies.

I have a couple of boxed MS-DOS 6.0 kits, but like the majority of purchased 6.22 kits (retail, not OEM), I suspect it'll be the step-up kit, not the start-from-nothing kit.
 
I too have two sets of DOS 6.22, and many sets of WFW 3.11.

You know, I'm glad we have hard drives. Because if we didn't, I'd feel sorry for the people at Archive.org.
 
lol, have to admit the same. Was spring cleaning and getting some boxes emptied and found some disks and material I'm trying to figure out how best to scan and archive. One is some floppies from a cpm user group, just unsure what architecture/system at this point, could have come with some Victor systems I acquired. The magazines are a Victor 9000 group which are already nice and hole punched, so just time scanning those in to some useful format should happen soon. Was debating using the companies xerox machine which will automatically create pdfs but it won't OCR them so not sure if that's good or not.
 
I've got a few copies of 6.22 as well but postage wouldn't be worth it. It was usually bundled with WFW. Apart from disk compression or lack of it, there's not much difference between the base 6, 6.2, 6.21 and 6.22 anyway if memory servs me right. The stepup files are freely available from MS- http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=21936

Of course you could buy it from Orbitmicro http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/ms-dos-6-22-p-2281.html but I suspect the price is over the top. I've seen new sealed copies it up for gabs for around $40 though.

Looks like 3.5" and 5.2" media only copies can be had- http://www.oldsoftware.com/dealers.html#anchor26795

Good to see you've stumbled across some useful older software. How come you have Office 4.2? Weak moment? ;)

Emailed you an Ebay link for media only Ole Juul.
 
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It really sucks being me, as I know almost everything I own, so I never really do find anything special, except for the occasional IDE cable or what not.
 
Good to see you've stumbled across some useful older software. How come you have Office 4.2? Weak moment? ;)

Emailed you an Ebay link for media only Ole Juul.

Thanks for the links! Not it wasn't a weak moment - quite the contrary. People throw these things away when they move on and I pick(ed) them up to reformat. Time has passed and I wouldn't do that now since somebody could probably make good use of them.

I have a historical interest in Windows 3.0 and 3.1 and although I didn't use them back then, I plan to set up a machine or two from that era since I have the correct period hardware. It's funny, but the only MS software which I recognize as acceptable for me is their DOS, and I apparently don't have a legitimate copy of the version that I use daily. My personal disdain for MS aside, I can't stand being a hypocrite, so that has got to get fixed!
 
Want a 4-disk (3.5") MS-DOS 6.22 c/w OEM User's Guide & Enhanced Tools still in shrink-wrap, $10 & postage?

Also NIB Win 3.1 w/manual, WFW add-on, and Resource Kit w/supplement...
 
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I wont tell, honest ;). Of course there are perfectly acceptable alternatives.

MikeS offer is very generous. Being in the same part of the planet, about 6" away looking at my beside globe, a bonus too.

It's interesting to note that MS Dos7 with Gui is only 13 disks.
 
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Want a 4-disk (3.5") MS-DOS 6.22 c/w OEM User's Guide & Enhanced Tools still in shrink-wrap, $10 & postage?

Also NIB Win 3.1 w/manual, WFW add-on, and Resource Kit w/supplement...

That sounds great! I found several copies on eBay, but unfortunately they were rare and I prefer mine well done.

I already have Win 3.1 and 3.0 in various media. Also. this whole thing made me think that perhaps 6.0 might be a better choice. It's 2035 bytes lighter, so shipping should be a little less too. I'll PM you.
 
I wont tell, honest ;). Of course there are perfectly acceptable alternatives.

MikeS offer is very generous. Being in the same part of the planet, about 6" away looking at my beside globe, a bonus too.

Yep, MikeS's offer is indeed generous. BTW, that good one on eBay ships USA _only_.
 
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