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264 Prototype

falter said:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201383846637&alt=web

Did anyone here score this beastie? Can't believe I missed it!
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I'm a big fan of the 264 series, having got a 232 and a V364, but the price here was silly. It's a nice piece of history but the only thing different between this machine and a +4 is the label and the missing 3+1 ROM's. The 232 and 364 were at least interesting from the point of having unique hardware, whereas the MB in this machine is a stock +4 MB.
 
KC9UDX said:
Interesting.

According to that link, it should have a Plus 4 mainboard.
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The Zimmers link also links to an image of a prototype 264 board which is slightly different from the regular 264 board that was used in the +4. It is possible that other different prototype 264 board designs were made. Any of those would be very collectible.
 
I've seen two "264"s in my life: my own and Jim Brains. If you are only looking at the motherboard, the only way that I've seen to tell that you are looking at an actual 264 and not a Plus/4 is to check the kernal ROM revision. As the 264 was the pre-release name of the Plus/4, they were often kept around Commodore for firmware development (which always comes last), and for shipment to software developers. As a result, one would expect (and, in fact, find) pre-release EPROMs.

- Bo

P.S. I guess another check would be for the Round power plug as opposed to the final release Square plug -- though I've heard of a few Plus/4's that left the factory with round plugs as well, so it's a necessary-but-not-sufficient condition.
 
bozimmerman said:
I've seen two "264"s in my life: my own and Jim Brains. If you are only looking at the motherboard, the only way that I've seen to tell that you are looking at an actual 264 and not a Plus/4 is to check the kernal ROM revision. As the 264 was the pre-release name of the Plus/4, they were often kept around Commodore for firmware development (which always comes last), and for shipment to software developers. As a result, one would expect (and, in fact, find) pre-release EPROMs.

- Bo

P.S. I guess another check would be for the Round power plug as opposed to the final release Square plug -- though I've heard of a few Plus/4's that left the factory with round plugs as well, so it's a necessary-but-not-sufficient condition.
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So when will you open up the official Commodore Museum? Would finally be a reason for me to visit Texas... :3

Is there actually any Commodore Computer not in your collection already? Looking at your collection the 264 was prolly not even close to the most expensive buy...
 
Bo pretty much has everything. I keep trying to find out his home address. For ... tourism purposes. Yes.

Really, all I want is a Commodore 900 with Coherent. That's all I want. And maybe a pony.
 
No I was kidding. I have as many C=900s as you have working A3000+s with AAA. :)
 
Hehe. :) That said, I've had this long-time dream of hosting Secret Weapons of Commodore on a 900. I'd just need to figure out some sort of proxy layer to deal with the fact Coherent doesn't have, you know, TCP/IP.
 
kyodai said:
So when will you open up the official Commodore Museum? Would finally be a reason for me to visit Texas... :3

Is there actually any Commodore Computer not in your collection already? Looking at your collection the 264 was prolly not even close to the most expensive buy...
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Museums are for looking at things in glass cabinets behind big fuzzy ropes.

I doubt I'll stop playing with them long enough to let that happen.

Ya'll are welcome to drop by whenever, of course. Perhaps you can help me figure out why those C900s won't boot!

- bo
 
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