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Pentium 4

hunterjwizzard said:
Mayhaps we need to go into business? :p
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PM me, we split 50/50 of the profit hehe.
Unknown_K said:
I can see the collectors value because it was a dead-end system with exotic RAM that never caught on.
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Yes, I remember adverting in TV about RDRAM, crazy times. I do have a P3C-2000 MB (a board with a RDRAM chipset plus a very faulty memory translator hub that allowed the use of SDRAM, by far the most reset liking board from my computers), very bad and rare.
rmay635703 said:
It was a strange time (2001-2005) and people did still have the vibes of 386/486 era
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Indeed, I had a 486 until 2002 (with Internet, of course), then I got a K6-II, worked very well until 2006, I completely skipped the P4. No regrets, but all my fellows looked down on me, the P4 fever was going on.
 
rmay635703 said:
When the p4 was contemporary nobody I knew owned one. (They were an elitist machine). Most everybody still had K6-2 or Celeron/P2 machines. And then like a year later Athlon/Duron
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Your recollection doesnt prove anything. I personally saw delivery of tens of thousands of Pentium 4's. I assure you they were very popular. Although popularity is a completely moot point as people, business, and institutions buy whats current, and the P4 was current.

Hell long after working for Dell when I worked at the hospital they had a contract with HP and their was still a plethora of P4 Bussiness class HP's.

Sure I didnt own one as I owned a K6-2.. But eventually I got a bunch of p4 DELL systems for peanuts and rant them as my newest machine.

lucasdaytona said:
Indeed, I had a 486 until 2002 (with Internet, of course), then I got a K6-II, worked very well until 2006, I completely skipped the P4. No regrets, but all my fellows looked down on me, the P4 fever was going on.
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Sure I had my compaq LTE4/33 Lite laptop running win95 with 20mb of ram and docking bay on the internet until 2002-ish.. Just because I could really and it had a small footprint. I never had a ton of money and never spent big money buying a computer. I aquired used parts whenever possible. Saving money was always the goal.. Im glad I was responsible in that way. Ill admit some envy when customers had machines I could never afford and were absolutely too stupid to use them... But im sure many of us felt the same in those situations.
 
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I remember the P4 fever in high school, it still seems hilarious. I had a dual 1.4ghz tualtin(PIII) at the time. I remember this one guy bragging about his 1.6ghz P4. All of us computer nerds in the know knew AMDs were winning at the time.
 
lowen said:
Same here; had an Athlon 64 3700+ in Socket 754 and later a 4000+ in 939. A Socket 940 FX or Opteron would have been cool at the time; have access to some server-grade stuff now with Opterons, mostly IBM BladeCenter LS20 blades and a couple of Dell PowerEdge 6950s (Quad dual-core Opterons).

The contemporary Xeons to the P4 are just as inefficient and hot; the dual-core 3.73GHz Dempseys are the worst, with two of them in a Precision 690 at 130W each. That 690 had the special RAM riser boards, extended RAM cage, and kilowatt-class power supply with the C19/20 power connectors.
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Some wonderful soul was kind enough to leave a gorgeous dual Opteron board on the free table at VCFSoCal which I am endeavoring to turn into a nice retro system. I got the HSFs over a week ago and still haven't had time to put it all together /cry emoji
 
hunterjwizzard said:
Some wonderful soul was kind enough to leave a gorgeous dual Opteron board on the free table at VCFSoCal........
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Pal I like old computers... But your not gonna hear me call one "gorgeous"..... 🤮



Women, old cars,, maybe even some nice breeds of dogs... But not a circuit board.....
 
VERAULT said:
Pal I like old computers... But your not gonna hear me call one "gorgeous"..... 🤮



Women, old cars,, maybe even some nice breeds of dogs... But not a circuit board.....
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That's why you can never love the Pentium 4. Its the Alfa Romeo of processors.
 
Ladas are interesting. Saw a few in Prague.. I mean plastic cars cummon. I have an afinity to the Geo Metro base model 3 cyl... those things are just so sparce its "interesting as hell!"

And I saw a still working Yugo in Downtown San Diego sometime around 2008.. But even though they are liked, I dont think anyones calling them gorgeous.
 
lowen said:
Drifting off-topic, but I actually have what can be called a gorgeous circuit board. But the Egyptian hieroglyphs are part of that....
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Its "nice" sure I can see that... Probably the nicest S-100 card I have ever seen. But calling it gorgeous implies you have never seen true beauty........ And thats a real F$%king shame.... HAHAH :LOL:

I guess Chuck is right... Eye of the beholder and whatnot. I mean we have those fetish keyboard deviants everywhere now... Who knows what kind of filthy things they are doing to those buckling spring switches. Makes me sick to think about it...
 
VERAULT said:
Your recollection doesnt prove anything. I personally saw delivery of tens of thousands of Pentium 4's. I assure you they were very popular. Although popularity is a completely moot point as people, business, and institutions buy whats current, and the P4 was current.

Hell long after working for Dell when I worked at the hospital they had a contract with HP and their was still a plethora of P4 Bussiness class HP's.

Sure I didnt own one as I owned a K6-2.. But eventually I got a bunch of p4 DELL systems for peanuts and rant them as my newest machine.


Sure I had my compaq LTE4/33 Lite laptop running win95 with 20mb of ram and docking bay on the internet until 2002-ish.. Just because I could really and it had a small footprint. I never had a ton of money and never spent big money buying a computer. I aquired used parts whenever possible. Saving money was always the goal.. Im glad I was responsible in that way. Ill admit some envy when customers had machines I could never afford and were absolutely too stupid to use them... But im sure many of us felt the same in those situations.
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P4’s were in colleges and Businesses certainly but my school virtually ignored P4 and where I worked stayed with P3’s and Win 2k until 2012 and jumped to Core & Win 7 skipping XP and Vista.

In the engineering world AMD seemed to be more popular during the P4 era.
 
VERAULT said:
Its "nice" sure I can see that... Probably the nicest S-100 card I have ever seen. But calling it gorgeous implies you have never seen true beauty........ And thats a real F$%king shame.... HAHAH :LOL:

I guess Chuck is right... Eye of the beholder and whatnot. I mean we have those fetish keyboard deviants everywhere now... Who knows what kind of filthy things they are doing to those buckling spring switches. Makes me sick to think about it...
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Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder...of course, my wife, our three daughters, and our two granddaughters are more beautiful..... but other things can be gorgeous, too. Like a solar eclipse. Or the radio observations at 2.2 and 8.4GHz of said solar eclipse....

And it's not S-100....
 
rmay635703 said:
P4’s were in colleges and Businesses certainly but my school virtually ignored P4 and where I worked stayed with P3’s and Win 2k until 2012 and jumped to Core & Win 7 skipping XP and Vista.
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I am sure its due to budget reasons... NO-ONE wants to buy computers for a whole business or institution. That is a GIGANTIC cost. Many entities will put it off until they absolutely have to.. And even when the P4 was out many smaller entities were not as technically advanced as they are these days... so you could do fine with less at the time.

We had apple IIs in school. I went to the same school K through 8th grade. After Apple II's the school bought Tandy 2000's (yep....) and I know for a fact they kept them until the mid 90's in the computer lab...... Because they didnt want to spend the money. Not because they thought 386, 486, or pentiums were not a good cpu.. They like MOST people knew NOTHING about computers.. but they did know about Budgets!
 
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On a serious side, you know, your PC is a little like your first love, its all bliss and nostalgia until it isn't. I don't begrudge anyone that likes and wants to experience nostalgia for any machine they had or always wanted in the past. Highly tolerant and sympathetic. A lot of us here, its all about the first and or the memories that were made. Matters not which old system you pick, why you pick it, etc to me. Have fun, that's all that really matters! And let it be your own fun and not necessarily someone else's idea of fun unless your compelled to try it.
 
Oh good a Politically Correct monologue on tolerance in my hobby forum... Thats super. That needed to be said.. Can I share like and subscribe now?


Were all here for the hobby. We wont all see eye to eye and thats perfectly fine. It would be boring if we did. A good debating conversation is thought provoking...

Check that Politically Correct Drivel talk at the door though.. for god sakes. NO RELIGION, NO POLITICS....

Vintage computer talk is the soup of the day!!!
 
VERAULT said:
You just lost credibility.
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You're wrongly implying I ever had any to begin with :p
Chuck(G) said:
It takes all kinds. There are people out there who love the Yugo, Ladas and the AMC Pacer.
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Alfas are notorious among car enthusiasts for looking like they should be very fast and agile. But then you buy one and find out it doesn't go as fast as it should, breaks down constantly, and is downright painful to drive. And yet... people still love them. And you aren't a true petrol-head until you've owned one.
 
hunterjwizzard said:
You're wrongly implying I ever had any to begin with :p

Alfas are notorious among car enthusiasts for looking like they should be very fast and agile. But then you buy one and find out it doesn't go as fast as it should, breaks down constantly, and is downright painful to drive. And yet... people still love them. And you aren't a true petrol-head until you've owned one.
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When I lived in Italy long ago, I had an Alfa Julieta, not all that great but very reliable!
 
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