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When I lived in Italy long ago, I had an Alfa Julieta, not all that great but very reliable!
My mom had an Alfa Spyder. It stalled out constantly on the hill near our house and I don't think she ever took it on the freeway. After it finally became too expensive to repair, it rusted on our driveway for 6 years. Then she replaced it... with a Jaguar.
 
Dad once owned a Studebaker Scotsman. I witnessed him going into a mad fury and destroying a fuel gauge on the thing. Luxury car, it was not. A friend had a Fiat 124 that wound up rusting in his driveway. The electrics on that thing were a mess. Me, I'm not one for fancy stuff--I drive a Prius--even hauled a 32U rack in the rear--it barely fit--last week it took all of 3 gallons of rotted plant juice.
 
I don't own a car myself, don't drive(poor eyesight). But I get into computers a lot of the same way people get into cars. I love the classics, I like to tinker with them, tune them. Its fun to have many different ones for different tasks. And its a whole lot cheaper than cars.
 
I just dont get it. I see this silly young guys clogging up youtube with videos marked "Vintage computer pickup" or "huge vintage computer Hauls"... Because they are too young and too stupid to realize the world existed long before they did and this stuff is just modern waste.
I get completely why you don't like the P4. It was inferior to AMD at the time, inefficient, netburst, the list goes on and you've put well the list of problems. Why the mindset that anyone who DOES enjoy the P4 despite its flaws is just uneducated on the subject though? You seem to be very aggressive about your opinion that P4 hardware is all cheap junk ewaste that should be thrown out like that's fact. You're fine to hold that opinion, but not everyone agrees. It hurts a bit to see someone call those people all "young and stupid" over something they enjoy. And hey, the loud fans in my Prescott Inspiron 9100 make great white noise to fall asleep to ;)
Check that Politically Correct Drivel talk at the door though.. for god sakes. NO RELIGION, NO POLITICS....
Nothing that guy said had anything to do with politics?
 
Nah not agressive.. im just trying to understand it. And im trying but I just cant.

Politically correct ad nauseum nonsense words = politics
 
Nah not agressive.. im just trying to understand it. And im trying but I just cant.

Politically correct ad nauseum nonsense words = politics
Maybe you just lack compassion, I don't know, you tell us, is it your way or the highway? The answer speaks volumes, its your Karma, you get to choose! How do you choose to be viewed and understood? Tell us please, enlighten us as to how you listen and respect others? You appear to come off to some of us as troLlsh, how do you want to respect and view your opinions?
 
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Something I've noticed; there's always someone up on the knoll waiting to take a potshot but never brave enough to come down and take part.
 
Yabut, how many are still on the road?
Two very popular vehicles here are the RAM pickup truck or the GMC Suburban.
Well heres the thing. Old japanese steel was very inferior.. however thier engines were quite the contrary. So if youd let a still working engine over the whole car...wed have something to talk about.
 
I shoulda bought a Ram. I just didnt trust dodge mopar after how awful the late 90s jeep grande cherokees were. My gmc truck was getting bad rust.wasnt even that old.
 
Nah not agressive.. im just trying to understand it. And im trying but I just cant.

Politically correct ad nauseum nonsense words = politics
You don't have to understand it to be able to respect it. There's some parts of this hobby I don't get in the slightest - people who collect old printers for instance, that's a part of this hobby I'd never get into. But it doesn't really bother me. If someone wants to have a shelf full of old printers, that's fine. What I'm trying to get is why people appreciating P4 stuff seems to bother you so much - if you don't like them, just don't buy them.

On the supposed PC stuff - I still don't get it. All that guy said is that this hobby is about having fun with old hardware we like. Is it because he used the word "tolerant"? I don't get the connection...
 
On a different note, I've thought about building a socket 423 Willamette system for a while now. I've never built a computer from scratch, just never had to, and I think it would be a fun build to start with. Something about pushing a completely impractical platform to the limit would just be a lot of fun in my mind. I'd need a period case, a 423 board (and probably some new caps to go with it), a CPU, a load of RDRAM, whatever the best GPU to pair with one would be, dual optical drives, floppy, zip, one of those card reader thingies, audigy 2, fw400 card, a WPA-2 capable PCI wifi card, dual 7200RPM hard drives in RAID 0...
 
I shoulda bought a Ram. I just didnt trust dodge mopar after how awful the late 90s jeep grande cherokees were. My gmc truck was getting bad rust.wasnt even that old.
My last GMC supposedly blew an engine at 89K miles, they totally didn't give a crap when they miss diagnosed their bad engine, it needs rebuilding or replacement they declared. THEY caused me to replace it at a cost of $7K. When they reused the same engine coils and the rebuilt engine failed in the exact same fashion, they said sorry Charlie and refunded me NOTHING!

.I went without a vehicle for 7 weeks. Never any acknowledgement, neary any apologies. They pester me now constantly about new vehicle offers despite me opting out! Totally lacks any integrity! Mhmm, like FU, I will never buy Chevy or a GM vehicle again, zero integrity when they F up! So sad! People cry buy American, but have zero advice when you get screwed.
 
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On a different note, I've thought about building a socket 423 Willamette system for a while now. I've never built a computer from scratch, just never had to, and I think it would be a fun build to start with. Something about pushing a completely impractical platform to the limit would just be a lot of fun in my mind. I'd need a period case, a 423 board (and probably some new caps to go with it), a CPU, a load of RDRAM, whatever the best GPU to pair with one would be, dual optical drives, floppy, zip, one of those card reader thingies, audigy 2, fw400 card, a WPA-2 capable PCI wifi card, dual 7200RPM hard drives in RAID 0...
There are two good reasons to push forward with this project:

1. Building a maxed out system, any maxed out system from any generation, is a fun and rewarding experience.

and

2. If you've followed the general loathing for the P4 visible on this thread, you'll notice it will be dirt-cheap since nobody wants the parts.
 
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