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Damsel and Doctor in Distress

The key thing with any UNIX system is that it is shutdown safely before the mains is switched off / disconnected.

A power failure can lead to the disk becoming corrupt. With the SCO UNIX systems I used to manage we had an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) linked to the computers so that they would still run for an hour or so when the mains failed, and would automatically shutdown safely once the batteries in the UPS started to loose their charge. Hence safe.

If the monitor is dead, with the computer running, it is a bit tricky shutting the system down isn't it?

Dave
 
I am predicting this 30+ year old system is dead for other reasons. It doesn't need a working monitor to function.

If the photos were of this actual server, then the file system mount failed. End of line.

Certainly they can still provide medical care, the "old fashioned" way.

I have deal with SOME tech debt every day, but Wow... this one is bad.
 
I am concerned about this also...

Hopefully they have a software backup of their software and records...

Dave
 
The key thing with any UNIX system is that it is shutdown safely before the mains is switched off / disconnected.

A power failure can lead to the disk becoming corrupt. With the SCO UNIX systems I used to manage we had an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) linked to the computers so that they would still run for an hour or so when the mains failed, and would automatically shutdown safely once the batteries in the UPS started to loose their charge. Hence safe.

If the monitor is dead, with the computer running, it is a bit tricky shutting the system down isn't it?

Dave
Ayup! 😎
 
I am predicting this 30+ year old system is dead for other reasons. It doesn't need a working monitor to function.

If the photos were of this actual server, then the file system mount failed. End of line.

Certainly they can still provide medical care, the "old fashioned" way.

I have deal with SOME tech debt every day, but Wow... this one is bad.
It's Alaska, where very little high tech of any kind is used, because it's screamingly expensive to buy anything, and if it is still working, you keep using it.

They realize they may be entering records by hand, I have no idea if there is anything on disks... and so wish we had had occasion to talk about the existence of this while we were chatting about seals, bears, eagles and our dogs - she has sent me 2 wonderful Aussies.
 
I am predicting this 30+ year old system is dead for other reasons. It doesn't need a working monitor to function.

If the photos were of this actual server, then the file system mount failed. End of line.

Certainly they can still provide medical care, the "old fashioned" way.

I have deal with SOME tech debt every day, but Wow... this one is bad.
If that situation exists, is there any way to siphon the data out?
 
If the photos were of this actual server, then the file system mount failed. End of line.
It says "possibly damaged file system, mount failed", and then we see the start of an fsck run. Doesn't that just mean that the filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, but likely will be mostly repaired (possibly with some flotsam and jetsam showing up in /lost+found)?
 
They will be logging on sometime this weekend- still need help but it's been quite a week
 
Damn auto correct :)!

Just spent ages fighting Safari to give me websites with Vectrex in the name as opposed to Vertex. Had to correct this post three times as well!

Dave
 
Beetronics do have a US presence - www.beetronics.com (323) 433-1644.

Look at their 15VG7M product. This is a 15" 4:3 aspect ratio monitor (but you will need to add a stand - VDK4 - I suspect). The original Tandy VGM-390 was 14" - so the replacement is a bit larger. You may be able to get a larger still monitor - but ask.

$360 for a 15" 4:3? :LOL:
If they can't find a free one locally, they could buy a modern 16:9 21" monitor from Micro Center for $60 bucks.

I know someone will bring up the rarity of finding a new 4:3 and how it's needed for an old PC. :unsure:
For fun, I just hooked up my 1988 IBM P70 to my modern desktop's 27" Toshiba monitor.
I have a razor sharp 4:3 15" diagonal centered display when in Dot-by-Dot mode. I can also select full screen and make use of all 27" and the proportions look fine.
 
1. We still don't know whether it is the monitor itself that is the problem...

2. They have already tried buying a 'cheap' replacement monitor (that didn't work) for $400...

Dave
 
1. We still don't know whether it is the monitor itself that is the problem...

Since the photos show a working monitor with a recent date on the screen, we know it's most likely not the problem...but that's besides the point.

2. They have already tried buying a 'cheap' replacement monitor (that didn't work) for $400...

Recommending a niche company that sells 'expensive' monitors which do nothing better than 'cheap' monitors at 1/10 the cost will never be a solution in any situation.
 
I was told they know a nice man in WA state who collects old computer equipment to refurbish and give to those who need it.
The issue is then shipping, which is $200 to Alaska. IF the issue is only the monitor.
 
You might consider trying to find someone locally in AK who is a tech person. If there is a phone company that has local staff, they are likely to have Unix nerds and it is usual for a phone company to want to send volunteers to help people in the community.
 
Regardless of paper files, computer files, hand written files or something carved into a stone tablet, a sensible surgeon never starts an operation unless they have all the data at hand, on the patient, their history, the doctor's own notes, and the treatment plan. This keeps the patient safe.

However, with electronic records, or test results, scan's etc, it can mean if the data is not readily available due to a computer glitch, the surgeon might have to cancel the operation. I have had to do this on a few occasions.

Some "die hard" old school surgeons (I approve of) would not start an operation, where computer scan data was used in the procedure (for example for bone fractures), was not available as a mylar film, on a simple film viewer with two fluorescent tubes, because they were worried if the computer went down during the procedure, they could not see what they were doing and it could lead to a bad outcome.

Medicine and surgery is now increasingly dependent on reliable computers and patient file data storage and access. Like all innovations, it can be a dual edge sword.

Also if the doctors and staff in some practice are familiar with some system, vintage or otherwise, if it goes down, it can cause chaos and it can take a while to adapt to a substitute system.

One interesting thing about paper records, which are inefficient, occupy a lot of space, bad for the planet etc etc, they are very reliable and work when the power goes down. They are not as long lasting as something carved into a stone tablet, but they are much longer lasting than any magnetic storage media or any electronic memory created to date. I can still look at notes that I wrote with pen in patient files that are 30 years old and they look like the day they were made. I cannot say the same of a video stored on VHS tape or a lot of other magnetic media used to store digital files.

Also, I would not be too concerned about the outer sheath issue on the power cable. To make that lethal would require two things:

1) The Garden Gnomes would have to come in the middle of the night and transpose the earth and the live wires in the plug or the connector.

2) Then on top of that they would have to disable the RCD (ELCB, residual current device) on the facility's circuit breaker box.
 
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