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Desperation with Sharp MZ-80A ?

Desperado

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Hi guys, meanwhile I'm waiting for my friend @antony to finish the PCB design for the pet64, I bought this strange vintage Sharp computer. I turned it on but it wouldn't turn on, so I opened the case and found two broken fuses. I ordered them on Amazon and they will arrive tomorrow...I'm afraid though that a short circuit caused this....
I hope you can help me get this beautiful computer up and running!
Thanks in advance to all of you!
 

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The two fuses I can find on the schematics are on the raw inputs to the +5V and +12V voltage regulators.

Dave
 
It is a Z80 computer with BASIC...

The thing I liked about Sharp and Sanyo is that they provided the user with decent techical manuals.

Dave
 
>>> Why do you think they burned? short circuit?

Who knows. Go with old age and poverty until we find out!

Don't forget to order spare fuses. We may need them!

Dave
 
>>> Why do you think they burned? short circuit?

Who knows. Go with old age and poverty until we find out!

Don't forget to order spare fuses. We may need them!

Dave
Tomorrow they will arrive from Amazon!
 
The 1.6A fuses arrived, I inserted them but the computer doesn't work. I lifted a small box and realized that underneath there were two more blown fuses! I am desperate!
 

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You are not desperate - you just forgot to download the technical manual and use your eyes first!

See https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1036515/Sharp-Mz-80a.html?page=36#manual.

What fuses DID you replace then?

The two fuses in your photograph are F101 - but what is the other one? I am guessing this would be F102? These are on the PRIMARY side of the transformer.

The other fuses (that I am guessing are F301 and F401) are on the SECONDARY side of the transformer.

I would REMOVE F301 and F401 BEFORE powering up - this disconnects the secondary side and just leaves us with the primary side of the transformer.

Insert fuses F101 and F102 (after you have bought some new ones)...

!!! STOP !!! Is the computer designed for your local power supply?!

You will find an additional two (2) fuses if the MZ80A is designed for 240V. These are F103 and F104 (in line with the AC out socket) - but we don't need these to start with (if they are blown). The 220V (and - presumably - the 110/120V variants) will not have these fuses.

If you replace F101 and F102 we can use the multimeter (AC Voltage) to read the voltage on the three (3) secondary windings of the transformer to make sure that is OK before installing F301 and F401.

Dave
 
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The two fuses in your photograph are F101 - but what is the other one? I am guessing this would be F102? These are on the PRIMARY side of the transformer.
yes these are f101 and f102 !
!!! STOP !!! Is the computer designed for your local power supply?!
yes sir,is designed for 220V Europe use

The other fuses (that I am guessing are F301 and F401) are on the SECONDARY side of the transformer.
yes, i replaced these 1,6A fuses yesterday but now i haven't not any 830mA fuses :(
 
I just ordered a box with some spare fuses...tomorrow i'll can try this bad machine!
 
>>> 630 mA sorry!

I just wanted to make sure you ordered the correct parts...

I don't want any "premature desperation"!

Dave
 
My first home computer was a MZ-80A and I still have it stored away. I think I must have bought it almost as soon as it came on the market because it has a very low serial number, 29 I seem to recall. In fact there is a database, containing extensive wiring information for another obscure piece of equipment in my collection, that I still need to transcribe from one of its tape cassettes some time. As I didn't have a printer to connect to the computer back then it's the only record of all the circuit tracing that I did on that equipment years ago. The BASIC provided with the MZ-80A was pretty slow so I bought a version of FORTH for it that was far faster and more efficient. Also the block based data storage used in FORTH was better suited to a cassette based machine than BASIC. In fact I wrote the database software entirely in FORTH.

A particular design flaw in the MZ-80A was the PLAY key on the cassette recorder. This needed significant pressure to move the mechanism into the play position and, being just plastic, the key would eventually break making the recorder unusable. I fixed this flaw by attaching a steel lever onto the key to operate the mechanism. Some years ago I visited the National Museum of Computing at Bletchley Park here in the UK. They have machines from all eras from a working replica of the famous WWII code-breaking machine COLOSSUS, originally in use at Bletchley Park during the war, up to early home computers that visitors can play with themselves. I noticed that their MZ-80A couldn't be used because ... yes ... its cassette recorder had a broken PLAY key.
 
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