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IBM Screws

lyonadmiral said:
In keeping as original as I could, I ordered slotted, not Phillips.
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Hmmm... Unfortunately on the Megacube they were Phillips originally. Can you tell me where you bought yours? I may order some direct from them as long as a quantity numbers are reasonable.
 
I went to a local hardware store, where I've done business for a long time. The man there is 3rd generation owner of the place. Whenever I have something I'm not of the where or what, he finds it for me. He had to special order them and the minimum order was 1 box of like 50 to 100 screws.
 
Chuck(G) said:
Slotted Torx? Mike those must be rare--on my HPs and Compaqs, they're strictly Torx-only cheese-head. I don't think I've ever seen a slotted Torx combo head.
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Huh!
Maybe yours are newer or older; I've got several models of EVOs and Vectras and they all have slots as well as the #15 Torx socket; the Compaq screws are cheese-head (silver and black depending on size) while the HP screws have button-heads and captive lockwashers. Out of about ten different Compaq/HP Torx screw types in my hardware drawers only two don't have a slot.

And FWIW some of the flanged IBM screws also have combo heads, Philips and a slot.
 
Well, I'll be... :stupid:

I went and popped open a couple of Vectras and a Deskpro. You're right--I had to stare at the smaller Deskpro black-head screws, but there's a slot there. I chalk it up to a mindset that Torx-head uses a Torx driver, period. I guess I couldn't also tell you which hex-head screws had slots in them, as I always use a hex driver for them.

Good practice, I suppose, but after awhile it begets blindness... I can't even begin to tell you how many times I went diving for a T15 driver for those things when I had a slotted driver in my hand.
 
lyonadmiral said:
I went to a local hardware store, where I've done business for a long time. The man there is 3rd generation owner of the place. Whenever I have something I'm not of the where or what, he finds it for me. He had to special order them and the minimum order was 1 box of like 50 to 100 screws.
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Thats too bad. I don't mind ordering 50 if the price is reasonable and it is the right type of screw but the fact that they are local (i.e. I assume no WWW store) makes it hard to order from them.

BTW: in your pics I couldn't see the caps on the screws but I asssume they look like this except slotted:

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Image courtesy of wiki
 
Slot or not, those don't look at all like what I thought was IBM screws. The ones I've seen have a completely different head profile and are much taller.
 
Ole Juul said:
Slot or not, those don't look at all like what I thought was IBM screws. The ones I've seen have a completely different head profile and are much taller.
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Like the black and gold-coloured ones in my picture, right? I've certainly never seen Shadow Lord's in a stock IBM, but that type of screw is quite common on imported cases; the 8-32 size isn't too common though.
 
Chuck(G) said:
I also seem to recall that by and large the 5150-type screws are all galvanized, where the Far East imports are nickel-plate.
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Well, it's definitely a different finish although I think I've seen plated button-head screws on a 5150(5160) case; maybe they were replacements.

But I think the screws that Shadow Lord is looking for are for an Everex, so they'd be the type of screw normally used on far east cases; nothing to do with IBM AFAIK. I've got hundreds of 'em, but not that big.
 
The 8-32 nickel-plate, washer head, hex phillips head screws were used on most Taiwanese tower cases. I probably have a bunch of them. I replaced mine with thumbscrews routinely. Much easier to get into.
 
Chuck(G) said:
The 8-32 nickel-plate, washer head, hex phillips head screws were used on most Taiwanese tower cases. I probably have a bunch of them. I replaced mine with thumbscrews routinely. Much easier to get into.
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I thought I had some, but mine are almost all 6-32.
 
MikeS said:
Like the black and gold-coloured ones in my picture, right? I've certainly never seen Shadow Lord's in a stock IBM, but that type of screw is quite common on imported cases; the 8-32 size isn't too common though.
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Yeah, mine are not from IBMs. They are from an Everex system and as you pointed out 8-32 is not common so I have been looking for a source of them everywhere.
 
Chuck(G) said:
The 8-32 nickel-plate, washer head, hex phillips head screws were used on most Taiwanese tower cases. I probably have a bunch of them. I replaced mine with thumbscrews routinely. Much easier to get into.
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Chuck(G),

Do you want to get rid of a few? I need a minimum of two but wouldn't mind having 5 to replace all four screws plus a spare. But they have to be 8-32s as most cases that I have ever dealt with use the 6-32s. In fact the everex uses 6-32 for the usual place (holding L brackets in, screwing in side panels, etc..). But for waht ever reason they secured the top of the case to the frame w/ 4 8-32s.
 
Ali,

That's very common for the time period. You used to be able to buy sets of nylon thumbscrews--white for the card brackets (6-32) and black for the case (8-32).

I think I've still got a few of the nickel ones. What's the easiest way to get them to you?

P.S. It's funny--the Far East nickel-plated screws are absolute crap--boron steel (so they'll shear if any substantial torque is applied to them) and nickel-plated to boot (since nickel is a bit thicker than EG (you'll find that on made in US screws), they tend to fit looser and are sloppier.

Who knew that there would be a demand for them? :huh:
 
Chuck,

Thanks. I think maybe the easiest would be to just drop them in a regular envelop and USPS them using a stamp? I can't imagine 5 screws weighing that much.

p.s. As for demand I think it is like anything else mentioned on this forum. They are useful to one of us but everybody else will think it is just junk. I mean how many people are out there are looking for 8" drives?
 
Shadow Lord said:
p.s. As for demand I think it is like anything else mentioned on this forum. They are useful to one of us but everybody else will think it is just junk. I mean how many people are out there are looking for 8" drives?
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Me. I had a dream of setting up an "art box" open frame unit with one of my XT boards and an 8" drive. That is until I discovered the shipping cost and factored in how little I knew about them when it came to making a good buy, let alone the complexities of getting one to work. (sigh) Forget that then.

About IBM screws though. I just burnt up a new(er) IBM Aptiva something 1GHz machine. I guess I should have looked at the fan, and I knew it for sure when that familiar smell came wafting past my nose last night. Not worth fixing, but there's a few parts. The most important of which could be ... IBM screws! There aint nothin so bad as somthin good don't come out of it. In this case I got some free screws. :D
 
Ole Juul said:
Me. I had a dream of setting up an "art box" open frame unit with one of my XT boards and an 8" drive. That is until I discovered the shipping cost and factored in how little I knew about them when it came to making a good buy, let alone the complexities of getting one to work. (sigh) Forget that then.
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But you are on this forum :D
 
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