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Ok I am having fun here we've been given several macs all have the OS hosed. I know I can and have in fact downloaded the OS from apple at http://support.apple.com/kb/TA48312?viewlocale=en_US. The problem is how do I get these onto floppies? Someone told me to use winimage but it doesn't seem to recognize the files.ive copied them onto a CDROM and taken it over to one of the Macs but it keeps trying to open it as a text file. I need the OS for a Mac SE FDHD, a IIcx or a LC520. I think if I can get good OS on the LC520 I should be able to make the disks for everything else. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
I was certified as a Mac tech back in the 1990s but was never really a Mac person.
 
In general, you are more likely to avoid problems if you can do the whole operation on another Mac, including downloading. Make floppies using Disk Utility on a Mac. The models you have named will all take 1.4mb floppies, I believe (you can check compatibility at Everymac.com)

Windows may misconstrue file extensions and Winimage may save files/images with incorrect metadata properties.

Rick
 
RickNel said:
In general, you are more likely to avoid problems if you can do the whole operation on another Mac, including downloading. Make floppies using Disk Utility on a Mac. The models you have named will all take 1.4mb floppies, I believe (you can check compatibility at Everymac.com)

Windows may misconstrue file extensions and Winimage may save files/images with incorrect metadata properties.

Rick
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If all you have is a Windows PC, I would work with all the files within a Macintosh emulator, there's a few that will use your PC floppy drive to read/write Mac formatted 1.44 disks.

Executor is a decent one, and its totally legit, no illegal ROMs required to use it, it's a clean-room designed mac toolbox ROM/OS.
All the other emulators vMac, Basilisk all require Mac ROMs to be dumped from a Mac (which if you don't have an OS on your Mac, kind of puts the cart before the horse) or illegally downloaded to use.

I have a copy of executor in the downloads on my site, I archive it there because the developers site doesn't always seem to work. It is the emulator that I prefer to use, you should be able to make Mac OS disks using it. Maybe one of these days I will do a proper tutorial on how to do it, because this question comes up ALL the time.
 
Paralel said:
Use RawWrite on Windows, it won't have the issues that WinImage has.
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If you can get the disk images in RAW format this would be great advice, however Apple.com downloads are in stuffit compressed diskcopy format.

That said it is FULLY possible to make them into RAW images that can be written by WinImage, Rawwrite, or rawrite, and someone may have these available on the net, just not from apple.com downloads
 
RWallmow said:
If you can get the disk images in RAW format this would be great advice, however Apple.com downloads are in stuffit compressed diskcopy format.

That said it is FULLY possible to make them into RAW images that can be written by WinImage, Rawwrite, or rawrite, and someone may have these available on the net, just not from apple.com downloads
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My solution to this is to import them into mini vMac, unstuff them, then drop the contents on a blank DSK file I also load in mini vMac, boom, RawWritable DSK file that works in Macs.

If he uses a boot disk from one of the freely distributed Apple operating systems (System 7.0, etc...) with the ROM dumper on the disk, he would RawWrite that DSK, dump the ROM from his Mac, bring that over to mini vMac, and be all set to go.
 
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Here, to make things easier, I have made Self Extracting Winimages of MacOS 7.0.1 Disks:

http://www.acrpc.net/utils/MacOS/7.0.1/DiskTools.exe
http://www.acrpc.net/utils/MacOS/7.0.1/Fonts.exe
http://www.acrpc.net/utils/MacOS/7.0.1/Install1.exe
http://www.acrpc.net/utils/MacOS/7.0.1/Install2.exe
http://www.acrpc.net/utils/MacOS/7.0.1/Printing.exe
http://www.acrpc.net/utils/MacOS/7.0.1/Tidbits.exe

FYI, I only actually TESTED the DiskTools image to boot on a real Mac (SE/30), but since that one worked, I would assume the rest should as well. Let me know if any of them don't work and I will test & fix them.

EDIT: As time permits I might also do other versions of MacOS, but this one is a good compromise for the systems the OP owns. I could have done System 6 for the SE, but that's kind of low end for the LC520 and IIcx, and I could have done 7.5.5, but that's too slow on a SE, 7.0.1 is a decent compromise, makes for a decent experience on all of them.
 
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This is always a pain! I use ZIP drives to do the transfer. My Quadra 605 has a SCSI ZIP drive and my WinXP computer has a parallel port ZIP drive. Using a 100MB Zip disk, it's easy to get the files onto my Mac then make the floppies. Takes a bit of work but much easier than floppies. Get one of the Mas working and the rest will come.
 
aoresteen said:
This is always a pain! I use ZIP drives to do the transfer. My Quadra 605 has a SCSI ZIP drive and my WinXP computer has a parallel port ZIP drive. Using a 100MB Zip disk, it's easy to get the files onto my Mac then make the floppies. Takes a bit of work but much easier than floppies. Get one of the Mas working and the rest will come.
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If money is tight you can get a single "ZIP 100 Plus" drive, it can be switched from SCSI for Mac or Parallel for PC, works great on both (assuming your PC is old enough to have a parallel port).
 
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