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Machinist X99 Motherboards?

Faster and, other than the network thing (more a Linux issue), pretty nice for my purposes. Can't say that I've experienced any shortcomings. I'm currently using it as my daily web browsing system.
Can't use it as a daily work system, as I've still got a lot of SCSI stuff and such that requires good old PCI slots. But it's quiet and cool and the NVMe SSD makes for fast booting.

Money well spent, I think.
 
$7.99 -

JacobsParts PCI-E 1x to 16x Powered USB3.0 GPU Riser Extender Adapter Card​


Thats if you want to relocate the card, if not...

$14.80

Cablecc PCI-Express PCIE PCI-E X1 X4 X8 X16 to PCI Bus Riser Card Adapter Converter with Bracket for Windows​




I suggest something similar to the first extender as 2 cards will not fit in one slot, let alone full height cards like the Adaptec UW controllers. Its a given cant boot from this concoction, otherwise should work. 25 bux to be able to use the same drives seems a good deal to me. Sadly no floppy support. Stuck with USB or kyroflux etc.


I currently use something similar with an M-Audio PCI interface off a x4 PCI-E slot with 0 issues. DMA works great!

M Audio Audiophile 24/96 REV-B PCI Sound Card​


interface/soundcard I use with it ^ Use it mostly for MIDI stuff. Works great in NT (3.51) and Win98 up!

I wouldn't rule out converting to have SCSI support. At least at this pricepoint. So you'll have to zip tie it elsewhere, no biggie. :)
 
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I just stuck with native PCIE SCSI cards mostly because you will need OS support to use them anyway. With consolidation I think Adaptec and ATTO were the only companies that made Windows drivers into the 64 bit (mostly Windows 7) age and only for last generation specific cards. I don't know what Linux supports since I don't use it anyway.
 
The first one reminds me of a USB-to-ISA adapter (has been around for years). Has anyone ever tried one of these?
 
This would work for a low profile card and has a real PCIe to PCI bridge chip: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/dp/B0024CV3SA

With a PCIe 1x extender it would allow you to have it outside a case. The PCIe x1 extenders work by converting the PCIe signals directly to a USB 3.0 A socket, use a USB 3.0 male A to A cable and have a powered adapter board outside that converts it back to a physical PCIe X16 slot but only has x1 signalling. They use USB 3.0 cables because they have good enough signal integrity to carry a PCIe signal, have the necessary number of wires, and are common, but they aren't actually adapting PCIe to USB, just passing through the signals. But they don't have enough current capacity to carry power, so the adapter has separate power.

These extenders were frequently used with GPUs for crypto mining, as the data just has to be loaded into the GPU, then the results returned, it doesn't take a lot of bandwidth like graphics use does.

Edit: Looks like this one would work even better for what you want to do: https://www.amazon.com/Sintech-PCI-Express-Riser-Extender/dp/B00KZHDSLQ

It adapts a PCIe x1 to dual PCI slots, uses a SATA power connector to power it. If you do get one, you'll probably want the one with the right angle SATA power cable included.

Another thought, with a Micro ATX motherboard in an ATX case, it should be possible to mount this adapter in the extra slots at the bottom of the case.
 
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I'd imagine most of the "do not works" are from someone trying to use a PCI card that doesn't have support in the OS they're using.
 
Thanks; I'll have a look. Any converters for PCIe to PCI-X? Got a couple of those too.

Most PCI-X cards with double keys will work on a regular PCI slot, just at reduced bandwidth. Just need enough room to hang the extra part of the connector off.

The first one reminds me of a USB-to-ISA adapter (has been around for years). Has anyone ever tried one of these?

Those are of limited use because they don't support interrupts, DMA or DOS. They're really only made for industrial control boards and such.

If you want an ISA card on a modern machine, you'd need to use the TPM header, which is the LPC bus on many motherboards. Someone made an ISA breakout board for it awhile back.

 
Yeah, I saw that--I still wonder about resource (DMA/Interrupt) allocation, however. Seems that some of the boards with LPC chipsets that I have that use the ISA-to-PCI bridge chips don't do 8 bit DMA. Heaven knows if an ISA busmastering controller would work in that.
 
I have the Sintech 2xPCI adapter. It works fine, but you have to connect the SATA power connector with most cards as the PCIe extender cable doesn't provide enough power or all the power rails. Annoyingly, the power connector is behind the slot, so if you have a card longer then the slot, you need a right angle plug. This won't work with 64-bit cards either, which is what some of the later Adaptec SCSI cards are, so you'll need a short riser anyway.
 
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