• Please review our updated Terms and Rules here

Machinist X99 Motherboards?

Thats why I like gamer cases, nice cable management plus you can fit large boards and heatsinks in them.
 
The one I bought is a minitower suitable for a full-size ATX board. The cooler will probably fit, though I haven't tried it yet. One 5.25" bay for a DVD drive or somesuch. I decided to leave the 3x5.25+3.5" one in its box for a build that actually can use the drive bays.
 
Smoke test passes--I've still got to neaten up the cabling, but no smoke, pops into the (very complicated) BIOS setup. Note that these boards ship without the CR2032 battery. More tomorrow. Assembled in an inexpensive minitower case with a single 5.25" external bay for a DVD-RW drive. 3 120mm case fans included and a full-sized ATX case, so should run pretty cool.
 
Chuck(G) said:
Smoke test passes--I've still got to neaten up the cabling, but no smoke, pops into the (very complicated) BIOS setup. Note that these boards ship without the CR2032 battery. More tomorrow.
Click to expand...
Yeah, there are restrictions shipping lithium batteries that even hit the little coin cells for international orders.
 
Unknown_K said:
Pics would be interesting.
Click to expand...
I'll get to those eventually. I've got an NVMe on order; I'll just use a spare SSD for testing. There are some nits, but not many. The case expansion header has holes for bracket screws, but they're not tapped. No biggie, just annoying. And wires, wires, wires, to be bundled up.
The other thing is that all cables, power, signal and fans, etc. seem to be black. No more color coding, I guess. Shame, that.

I bother to order name brand CR2032s - I use Sony.
 
I have a group of recently received mobos, all originally from Taiwan I believe, and they all came with CR2032s. AAMOF, I don't think I ever received a new mobo without a battery since the coin thing began. Just another way for our oriental friends to save a nickel or dime.
 
Agent Orange said:
I have a group of recently received mobos, all originally from Taiwan I believe, and they all came with CR2032s. AAMOF, I don't think I ever received a new mobo without a battery since the coin thing began. Just another way for our oriental friends to save a nickel or dime.
Click to expand...

It's not them being cheap, it's shipping restrictions. Lots of those Chinese sellers will use air freight to get packages shipped faster, which don't want even a hint of a lithium battery on the plane. Freight only aircraft can legally have Lithium batteries on them, but passenger airliners that also carry freight aren't allowed to at all.

Even if the board came with a battery, I'd be chucking it and replacing it. No telling what the actual capacity or build quality of the battery would be. I've seen plenty of fake batteries filled with sand or concrete.
 
GiGaBiTe said:
It's not them being cheap, it's shipping restrictions. Lots of those Chinese sellers will use air freight to get packages shipped faster, which don't want even a hint of a lithium battery on the plane. Freight only aircraft can legally have Lithium batteries on them, but passenger airliners that also carry freight aren't allowed to at all.

Even if the board came with a battery, I'd be chucking it and replacing it. No telling what the actual capacity or build quality of the battery would be. I've seen plenty of fake batteries filled with sand or concrete.
Click to expand...
Go to any major retailer like Micro Center or B&H Photo and they all come with batts. I'm not taking sides and could care less where the batteries come from, but all the mobos that I've bought have had batteries. BTW never seen a fake battery. Maybe we ought to do a poll on that.
 
The difference is those are major retailers. They get their stock on maritime cargo ships, the slowboat from China. They don't have restrictions on Lithium batteries.

They also don't sell weird Chinese boards like "Killisre" and "Jingsha" that use recycled chipsets lol.
 
Got all of the cabling set up. The nice part about this particular case is that it has provisions (tie points and holes) for running cables on the backside of the motherboard mounting. So things look cleaner. It has two spaces for 2.5" drive as well as a couple for 3.5" ones. Got a DVD-RW set up in the one 5.25" external bay.
I've installed Debian 12.4 on the SATA SSD until I get my NVMe installed.

The toughest part was figuring out how to get into the BIOS setup. (Don't laugh--it turned out to be ESCape).

What pictures do you want to see? The innards are a bunch of black cables in a black box; not very photogenic.

After the NVMe is installed, I'll hammer on it a bit. Right now, just doing a Debian install, the CPU temperature doesn't break 30C. Lots of air circulation.
 
With Debian 11 installed on the SSD things appear to be working very smoothly. Here's the lscpu info:
Code: 
Architecture:                       x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):                     32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:                         Little Endian
Address sizes:                      46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
CPU(s):                             28
On-line CPU(s) list:                0-27
Thread(s) per core:                 2
Core(s) per socket:                 14
Socket(s):                          1
NUMA node(s):                       1
Vendor ID:                          GenuineIntel
CPU family:                         6
Model:                              79
Model name:                         Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 v4 @ 2.60GHz
Stepping:                           1
CPU MHz:                            1547.081
CPU max MHz:                        3500.0000
CPU min MHz:                        1200.0000
BogoMIPS:                           5188.41
Virtualization:                     VT-x
L1d cache:                          448 KiB
L1i cache:                          448 KiB
L2 cache:                           3.5 MiB
L3 cache:                           35 MiB
NUMA node0 CPU(s):                  0-27
Vulnerability Gather data sampling: Not affected
Vulnerability Itlb multihit:        KVM: Mitigation: VMX disabled
Vulnerability L1tf:                 Mitigation; PTE Inversion; VMX conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
Vulnerability Mds:                  Mitigation; Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Vulnerability Meltdown:             Mitigation; PTI
Vulnerability Mmio stale data:      Mitigation; Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Vulnerability Retbleed:             Not affected
Vulnerability Spec rstack overflow: Not affected
Vulnerability Spec store bypass:    Mitigation; Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Vulnerability Spectre v1:           Mitigation; usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Vulnerability Spectre v2:           Mitigation; Retpolines, IBPB conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS Not affected
Vulnerability Srbds:                Not affected
Vulnerability Tsx async abort:      Mitigation; Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Flags:                              fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l3 cdp_l3 invpcid_single pti intel_ppin ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 hle avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rtm cqm rdt_a rdseed adx smap intel_pt xsaveopt cqm_llc cqm_occup_llc cqm_mbm_total cqm_mbm_local dtherm ida arat pln pts md_clear flush_l1d

So for $200 (okay, I bought a used DVD-RW and a case, so make that $250), not a bad deal. Do note that there are absolutely no instructions for any of this, so much of it is "figger it out for yourself".
 
Chuck(G) said:
This is the case that I used: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811197029

It's not flashy with lots of LEDs and glass, just a basic case, but pretty well thought out. The 3 fans are very quiet.
Click to expand...
Holy cow - $36.99! Did you opt for the deferred $10.25 payment plan also? Hope it came with a box of Band Aids and you don't slice a finger off. :ROFLMAO:

Just kidding of course. Looks like a good buy. Didn't know you could still get a NIB that cheap these days.
 
Well, it's probably because it's very plain--no flashy lights and glass side panel. Heck, just buying the three 120 mm fans would probably cost more. I didn't leave any blood inside the case--the edges are pretty well-finished and the whole thing is powder-coated inside and out. No bare metal to be seen. Has the proper connectors for audio, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0. One of the more painless assemblies that I've done.

Now to disable HT and do some stress-testing.
 
Running the Stress test on 14 cores, with HT turned off, package temp levels out at about 58C after 10 minutes. As soon as the test concludes, the temp drops to the low 30C range in a few seconds. Cooling is adequate.
 
Chuck(G) said:
Running the Stress test on 14 cores, with HT turned off, package temp levels out at about 58C after 10 minutes. As soon as the test concludes, the temp drops to the low 30C range in a few seconds. Cooling is adequate.
Click to expand...
Ryzen chips use SMT or Simultaneous Multi-Threading. Basically the same thing or results.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top