NobodyIsHere
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Hi! The good news is that finally enough N8VEM S-100 backplane and prototyping boards sold to pay for the PCB manufacturing run. The bad news is that they are all gone. There are no PCBs on order and I am investigating ways to get more units.
I think the main reason the demand was as low as it turned out to be was due to the price. Due to small initial quantities ordered, the S-100 backplanes were $32 and the prototyping boards were $25 which is above the pain threshold for many people.
Rather the approach I had been taking with ordering my own S-100 PCBs and selling the extra ones at cost, I am considering an alternative means of supplying the PCBs with the intent of lowering the unit cost significantly. I do not know the final cost now since that would be dependent on final quantity.
The key to lower unit cost is to increase the quantity buy. Redesigning the boards won't help since the S-100 format essentially requires large PCBs of about 50 square inches or so. I estimate it would require at least 20 units of each type to significantly lower the price per board. Of course, more would further lower unit cost and final price as the costs drop following a fairly standard exponential decay "learning curve" with production quantity.
What I've done is start a waiting list for N8VEM S-100 backplane and prototyping PCBs. If you would like to buy some PCBs send me an email with the quantity you are interested in. Plan on the regular price of $32 for the backplane and $25 for the prototyping board although I am fairly sure the next order will be quite a bit less than that. Once the quantity is sufficient to warrant another order, I will place one. I will inform the people on the list as soon as the boards arrive.
Those on the waiting list will be given first claim to the units. Since I am not accepting any preorders or advance funds of any kind, there is no penalty for bailing out on your order commitment. However reneging is very uncool and it will hurt your reputation in this small community. Karma will see to it you reap what you sow so please only those who are able to follow through on their commitment to buy should request to be on the waiting list. Any extra units will be sold like before on eBay, VGCM, etc at a fixed rate.
Since this new approach is intended to lower prices there is some risk of not acheiving sufficient quantity to reach the cost target. In that case, I won't make the order and nothing will happen until there is sufficient quantity to proceed. If significant time elapses, I will send out an email to those on the waiting list before ordering to reconfirm their interest. This is purely an amatuer project and not a commercial venture.
Please post here or contact me if you have any questions. If you would like to be on the waiting list please send an email to
lynchaj@yahoo.com with N8VEM in the subject line. Please specify which S-100 boards you would like and quantity. It is very important that you specify N8VEM in the subject line as I get a lot of spam on that account and it is easy to miss your email otherwise.
Note I do not know at this time what the final price will be nor do I know when or if the order would go through.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
I think the main reason the demand was as low as it turned out to be was due to the price. Due to small initial quantities ordered, the S-100 backplanes were $32 and the prototyping boards were $25 which is above the pain threshold for many people.
Rather the approach I had been taking with ordering my own S-100 PCBs and selling the extra ones at cost, I am considering an alternative means of supplying the PCBs with the intent of lowering the unit cost significantly. I do not know the final cost now since that would be dependent on final quantity.
The key to lower unit cost is to increase the quantity buy. Redesigning the boards won't help since the S-100 format essentially requires large PCBs of about 50 square inches or so. I estimate it would require at least 20 units of each type to significantly lower the price per board. Of course, more would further lower unit cost and final price as the costs drop following a fairly standard exponential decay "learning curve" with production quantity.
What I've done is start a waiting list for N8VEM S-100 backplane and prototyping PCBs. If you would like to buy some PCBs send me an email with the quantity you are interested in. Plan on the regular price of $32 for the backplane and $25 for the prototyping board although I am fairly sure the next order will be quite a bit less than that. Once the quantity is sufficient to warrant another order, I will place one. I will inform the people on the list as soon as the boards arrive.
Those on the waiting list will be given first claim to the units. Since I am not accepting any preorders or advance funds of any kind, there is no penalty for bailing out on your order commitment. However reneging is very uncool and it will hurt your reputation in this small community. Karma will see to it you reap what you sow so please only those who are able to follow through on their commitment to buy should request to be on the waiting list. Any extra units will be sold like before on eBay, VGCM, etc at a fixed rate.
Since this new approach is intended to lower prices there is some risk of not acheiving sufficient quantity to reach the cost target. In that case, I won't make the order and nothing will happen until there is sufficient quantity to proceed. If significant time elapses, I will send out an email to those on the waiting list before ordering to reconfirm their interest. This is purely an amatuer project and not a commercial venture.
Please post here or contact me if you have any questions. If you would like to be on the waiting list please send an email to
lynchaj@yahoo.com with N8VEM in the subject line. Please specify which S-100 boards you would like and quantity. It is very important that you specify N8VEM in the subject line as I get a lot of spam on that account and it is easy to miss your email otherwise.
Note I do not know at this time what the final price will be nor do I know when or if the order would go through.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
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