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I dug out all my Sage/Stride stuff from storage today and brought home 95% of it.

i did find my Stride Graphics card (which requires a Wyse-50 which i don't have) and will be taking pictures of that and posting it since it was requested.

in one of the boxes I have the original condor booklet that shows dimensions, specs, pinouts, etc for all their SDM series power supplies, the Stride 460 uses the SDM140a, it came with a brand new SDM200G. I'm planning to scan it.

does anyone have a pal reader? I have some pals id like to archive and id love to save them.

I also found a bunch of original manuals from Sage and Stride and manuals for the Wyse 60 (User Guide, Reference Guide, Maintenance Guide)

at this point, since www.sageandstride.org is gone again, I'm contemplating putting up a website with all the info I've found and collected in one place, if anyone would like to help, let me know.
 
The Wyse-50 is an ASCII terminal only. Why would a graphics card rely on that ?
I have a PAL reader, but beware : the PAL's are read-protected as I found out. You can still brute-force read them, which is what I have done for the one in the HD-PCB.

DC0086C_Stride_owners_manual_V1 and DC0087_Stride_owners_manual_V2, DC0165E_Unistride_release_notes and DC218A_400_series_Stride_release_notes have already been scanned.
 
The Wyse-50 is an ASCII terminal only. Why would a graphics card rely on that ?
I have a PAL reader, but beware : the PAL's are read-protected as I found out. You can still brute-force read them, which is what I have done for the one in the HD-PCB.

DC0086C_Stride_owners_manual_V1 and DC0087_Stride_owners_manual_V2, DC0165E_Unistride_release_notes and DC218A_400_series_Stride_release_notes have already been scanned.
It also supports Graphics by changing some jumper inside the Wyse 50 (maybe it's the 50+) that enables it to work. I'm still looking for the info. I got the graphics board sitting here.

which Pal reader/writer do you have? wasn't aware you could also read protect them.

do you have links for those scanned files?
I got the power system IV.22 BIOS and release notes and a bunch of other documents. (im gonna scan what i have on my printer at work)

It's unfortunate you couldn't recover the complete copies of UniStride.
Which CPU daughterboard do you have in that Stride? the 68010 or the 68020? and do you have any up-close pictures??? and which CPU board do you have? (should be either a CB0010A or CB0010B) and what version of the BIOS is on it?
 
I have a Stride 420 (MB only) with a CB0010D and , on loan, a complete 440 also with a CB0010D MB. The 420 has the MC68000, the 440 has a 68010 / MMU daughterboard.
I use an old Expro-60 for all Eprom Prom and PAL/GAL work.
I have ROM dumps for BIOS 3.08 and 3.10

I added the manuals and some pics to my FTP site.
ftp://ftp.dreesen.ch/Sage&Stride

Use Filezilla in case of problems.
 
I have a Stride 420 (MB only) with a CB0010D and , on loan, a complete 440 also with a CB0010D MB. The 420 has the MC68000, the 440 has a 68010 / MMU daughterboard.
I use an old Expro-60 for all Eprom Prom and PAL/GAL work.
I have ROM dumps for BIOS 3.08 and 3.10

I added the manuals and some pics to my FTP site.
ftp://ftp.dreesen.ch/Sage&Stride

Use Filezilla in case of problems.
Thank you for the info,

I haven't seen a CB0010D CPU board in the wild before. the 440/460 had the optional 68010/MMU daughterboard *IF* you wanted to run UniStride but wasn't standard otherwise. one of my 460's (the CB0010B CPU board) has a CPU on the daughterboard (CB0018A) but it is an MC68000G10 NOT a 68010 and my other Stride 460 has a CB0010B CPU board and it doesn't have a daughterboard and its got an MC68000L12.

and I would love to have those BIOS files as both of mine have BIOS 3.07. didnt find them on your FTP server

any chance you can pull the cover on the 440 and take some high res pictures of the CPU daughterboard both top and bottom?

and while you have it apart see if you still have labels on the PAL chip and note which part numbers they are and how much ram and which boards they are on, I've documented BOTH of my 460's (one has a CPU board and a ram board and the other has a CPU board and 3 ram/serial boards and a single serial board with no ram)
CPU board should be a WC0058a, Winchester board should be WC0038a, and memory board should be a WC0062a. be curious to hear what is on yours.

I have an Eprom reader/writer GQ-4X v4 (https://www.mcumall.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=40) which doesn't do Pals but does a lot of other things, i got a bunch of adapters for it.

ill check out your FTP site for new content, and than you for SHARING before I forget, your "overall stride disks.pdf" doesn't match whats on the FTP server in a few places, you have a few disk images in the wrong directory, a directory name wrong and an IMD file missing in another. and i cant download the mmu.jpg , feel free to shoot me a PM
 
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they are 80 tracks which would imply DS/QD or DS/HD would probably work also as they were higher density (DS/HD)
DEC RX50 was an 80 track drives and they work fine with DD media. They don't like HD media since it has a higher coercivity and the drive head flux isn't strong enough to fully flip the bits. Probably best to check the drive model and see what it likes.
http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/vax/rx50.html
 
DEC RX50 was an 80 track drives and they work fine with DD media. They don't like HD media since it has a higher coercivity and the drive head flux isn't strong enough to fully flip the bits. Probably best to check the drive model and see what it likes.
http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/vax/rx50.html
Good Point, Either a Teac FD-55F or 55FV or 55FR, I have all 3 of these drives that are in my Sage and Strides.
 
I added a "hardware" dirctory to my FTP. There you will find :
- BIOS 3.08 and 3.10
- front / back pics of the CB0018A MMU board ( with MC68010) and CB0011B winchester controller.
- reverse engineered schematics of the MMU and Winchester controller.

My 420 is in fact just the CB0010D motherboard with full RAM, the 440 is a complete unit, with an MMU and a Winchester board, with QIC controller, but no RAM.

I experimented with the Omninet interface, but could not get it to work in a mixed PC / Stride network. Would have to try again in a clean Stride only network.
 
I added a "hardware" dirctory to my FTP. There you will find :
- BIOS 3.08 and 3.10
- front / back pics of the CB0018A MMU board ( with MC68010) and CB0011B winchester controller.
- reverse engineered schematics of the MMU and Winchester controller.

My 420 is in fact just the CB0010D motherboard with full RAM, the 440 is a complete unit, with an MMU and a Winchester board, with QIC controller, but no RAM.

I experimented with the Omninet interface, but could not get it to work in a mixed PC / Stride network. Would have to try again in a clean Stride only network.
Thank you SO much..

I will send you a PM with some errors I found on the FTP site so others don't struggle or get confused so they can get fixed.
 
The Wyse-50 is an ASCII terminal only. Why would a graphics card rely on that ?
I have a PAL reader, but beware : the PAL's are read-protected as I found out. You can still brute-force read them, which is what I have done for the one in the HD-PCB.

DC0086C_Stride_owners_manual_V1 and DC0087_Stride_owners_manual_V2, DC0165E_Unistride_release_notes and DC218A_400_series_Stride_release_notes have already been scanned.
taken from press release document:

.RENO, Nevada -- February 8, 1985 -- Stride Micro today
announced the availability of memory-mapped video graphics
for the entire Stride 400 Series. Designed to take full
advantage of the 10MHz 68000 microprocessor, the new graphics
board option is capable of generating high-speed, high-
resolution images on a standard monochrome Stride (or Wyse
WY-50) terminal. This will allow both developers and users
to explore new techniques in windowing, animation, CAD, and a
variety of other innovative graphic software.

The Stride graphics board, with the low, suggested retail
price of $400, utilizes asynchronous memory access. This
allows for extremely fast video output, yet does not slow
down the system during non-graphics processing. Because of
the unique Stride design, the video refresh does not affect
the general operation of the 68000 processor. This permits
it to run at full speed, except when actually writing to the
video RAM.

A System RAM to Video RAM transfer can be accomplished
at 35 fps (frames per second) and a Register to Video RAM
transfer (eg: screen fill/clear operations) achieves 58 fps.
This phenomenal speed allows a screen memory update to be
performed faster than a screen refresh cycle, thus avoiding
any image flicker. Further demonstrating Stride's philosophy
of "Performance by Design~," the processor is able to operate
at the full 10 MHz (optionally 12 MHz) speed without wait
states when not addressing graphics RAM.
.A powerful feature of this video option is the ability
to display both terminal-generated characters and bit-mapped
graphics concurrently. This simplifies graphics development
by using the same screen for both programming and graphics
testing. Additionally, the developer is able to create new
character fonts, if desired, or utilize the existing ones
of the terminal.
.The graphics board option is implemented with minimal
hardware to acheive the now standard high price/performance
ratio Stride is known for. It utilizes a VMEbus compatible
card which mounts on standoffs in any
Stride 400 Series
machine. It contains 32K bytes of RAM which may be addressed
in the same manner as any other system RAM. The visible
resolution is 784 X 325 using one bit per pixel (on or off.)
Included in the option are a new sheet metal backpanel and
the necessary cables (for 420 and 440 systems, a backplane
containing an extra VME socket is provided.)

Graphics

.The Stride graphics board is currently offered as a
development tool only and is being marketed as a "Gamma" test
product. It comes complete with the board, connecting hard-
ware, basic graphic primitives, sources, simple demonstration
software and limited documentation. The "Gamma" version is
available immediately in single-unit quantity only and will
become a standard stock item as of April 12, 1985. The
public debut of this product is scheduled for May 6, 1985.
Suggested retail price of the Stride video board is $400
.Stride Micro, formerly Sage Computer, was founded in
1981 to manufacture and market high-performance 68000-based
microcomputer systems at competitive prices. Stride head-
quarters are located in Reno, Nevada, with regional offices
in Boston, Dallas and London, England, and distributors in
over 35 countries worldwide.

.Stride Micro's new graphics board has been designed to
provide memory mapped video graphics which take full
advantage of the 10 MHz 68000 microprocessor to generate
high-speed images on a standard monochrome Stride terminal.
.The Stride graphics board uses asynchronous memory
access, allowing for extermely fast video output and does not
slow down the system during non-graphics processing.
.The video card connects to the DB25 "Modem" port of any
standard Stride terminal with a special 16-inch cable. A
second jumper cable connects the video board to one of the
computer's serial ports. The terminal itself requires the
installation of four shunts on its main IC board. Resolution
on the terminal is 784 X 325 with one bit per pixel.
.The graphics board is currently a development tool only
and is being marketed as a "Gamma" test product. It will be
a standard stock item effective April 12, 1985, with the
public introduction scheduled for May 6, 1985.
 
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I'd be very interested to see this. I have a Wyse Wy50, and that does not have any other inputs but the 2 DB25 RS232 ports.......
 
I'd be very interested to see this. I have a Wyse Wy50, and that does not have any other inputs but the 2 DB25 RS232 ports.......
it is wired into the main DB-25 RS232 port. if you noted carefully above, "The terminal itself requires the installation of four shunts on its main IC board".
I have NO documentation on the Wyse 50. and there also is a Wyse 50+ that was ONLY made for 8-9 months. not sure which terminal Stride was using (which also was the basis for the Stride terminal).
 
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I recovered some Unistride QIC tapes.

For the Stride 440/460 ( 68010 with MMU option required )
------------------------------------------------------------
Unistride _2.0 Tape read completly. Unix kernal date 21-11-1986
Unistride _2.1 Tape read completly. Unix kernal date 17-03-1987

For the Stride 6xx ( 68020, with 68851 MMU and SCSI)
------------------------------------------------------
Unistride _2.2 Tape read completly. Unix kernal date 22-6-1988

All 3, lumped together, can be found here :

ftp://ftp.dreesen.ch/Sage&Stride/Unistride/Unistride.zip

Thanks to Birger Blixt for supplying these tapes.
 
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