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Trying to get XTIDE Deluxe working on IBM 5150

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It is an XTIDE Deluxe by Blue Lava Systems and I already installed and got the other one I bought working with my IBM 5160XT with no problems. For some reason the 5150 is giving me issues I am trying to use it along side the original MFM HDD card and drive. I have tried changing bios address to no avail? What else can I do?
 
This is a picture of what it does with both XTIDE and original HDD and card in at the same time:

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Did you try running:
FDISK /MBR
Sometimes there is corruption that prevents booting from the CF card. Running the above command will not erase your data.
 
Also, read this on MinusZeroDegrees:

IMPORTANT:Make sure that the MFM drive is successfully booting in the computer before (repeat: before) you add the XT-IDE card. That is because the XT-IDE card will default to booting from the MFM drive.
IMPORTANT:The ROM in the XT-IDE card needs to be sitting at a higher address than the ROM in the XT-class MFM hard drive controller card. That is normally the case (XT-IDE card = D0000, XT-class MFM card = C8000).
 
modem7 said:
Also, read this on MinusZeroDegrees:
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Acorn said:
IMPORTANT:Make sure that the MFM drive is successfully booting in the computer before (repeat: before) you add the XT-IDE card. That is because the XT-IDE card will default to booting from the MFM drive.
IMPORTANT:The ROM in the XT-IDE card needs to be sitting at a higher address than the ROM in the XT-class MFM hard drive controller card. That is normally the case (XT-IDE card = D0000, XT-class MFM card = C8000).
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The MFM drive does boot fine without the XTIDE card installed. I have tried changing the bios address for the XTIDE it just makes it boot straight to the MFM drive.
Acorn said:
Did you try running:
FDISK /MBR
Sometimes there is corruption that prevents booting from the CF card. Running the above command will not erase your data.
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I did try that to no avail but did not try reformatting the CF card.
 
When booting on the 5150 with the XTIDE installed, if you were to select drive D (MFM), does it then successfully boot? If so, I'd suspect the setup on the CF card.
 
Andrettigto said:
When booting on the 5150 with the XTIDE installed, if you were to select drive D (MFM), does it then successfully boot? If so, I'd suspect the setup on the CF card.
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No it will not boot either with the XTIDE card installed but will when it is only one of them installed.
Trixter said:
Does it work when you swap it into the 5150?
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That is the one I am having issues with neither of them will work with the 5150 but will work fine in the 5160XT I have 2 XTIDE Cards with 256MB CF Cards in them and also tried both CF Cards as well. I tried turning on the high speed and it will boot to the Internal drive as C: after the XT Bios comes up.
 
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Which kind of 5150? 16-64 or 64-256?

What other cards do you have in the 5150? Any change if you pull everything out and get down to a minimum config? (Video card, XTIDE, and MFM controller)
 
BarryM said:
Which kind of 5150? 16-64 or 64-256?

What other cards do you have in the 5150? Any change if you pull everything out and get down to a minimum config? (Video card, XTIDE, and MFM controller)
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I have the 64-256 5150 and it also has 2 floppy drives one full height 360k and one half height 1.44MB 35inch drive. I have removed the MFM HDD controller card and it will boot to the XTIDE.
Trixter said:
Actually, I'll pull everything except video card and XT-IDE. Just to get to a baseline of "does this work at all or not".
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I have removed the MFM HDD controller card and it will boot to the XTIDE.
 
I tried changing the bios address on both but all I can get is to boot the XTIDE and the mfm will not show up as D: drive or as secondary Hard drive.
 
So you have a particular {[XTIDE Deluxe + CF] + [MFM HDD card + MFM drive]} combination that works together in your IBM 5160. You simply move that particular combination (i.e. same identical hardware - pretend each item has a serial number) to your IBM 5150, to discover that the combination doesn't work there.

But in the 5150, you discover that:
- The [XTIDE Deluxe + CF] works if the [MFM HDD card + MFM drive] are removed, and
- The [MFM HDD card + MFM drive] works if the [XTIDE Deluxe + CF] are removed.

Correct ?
 
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