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Trixter

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I've been wandering in and out of these forums for half a decade and never thought to introduce myself, so here goes:

Howdy! I'm Jim Leonard and I've been going as "Trixter" online since 1986, when it was my cracking (later demoscene) handle on 312/708 area BBSes. My first introduction to computing was when I was a wee lad and my father would bring home terminals and serial line analyzers he was writing documentation for. In 1981, my first computer game was Adventure on an Osborne a neighbor had lugged home from the office, and around that time I also became infatuated with home consoles (mainly the 2600 and Intellivision) and coin-ops. In 1983, I stopped writing my school papers longhand and used Apple Writer on Apple IIs my school had recently acquired. In late 1984, my father used his employee discount from AT&T and brought home an AT&T PC 6300. The rest, as they say, is (my) history.

Some accomplishments over the last two decades that I'm proud of include the gaming information website MobyGames, my involvement in the demoscene (including a series of DVDs and Blu-rays that document some of its better efforts), and getting full-screen full-motion color video+audio working on an 8088+CGA machine. I was also partially responsible for the explosion of the abandonware scene, although that is not something I'm particularly proud of.

While I enjoy most forms of retrocomputing across multiple platforms, the main focus of my hobby centers around the creative use of IBM PCs and clones. By "creative", I do not mean using them in traditional creative pursuits like drawing art or writing stories (although there's nothing wrong with that!), but rather making the computers themselves do unconventional things via creative programming. Some examples of what I enjoy using my old machines for:
I have roughly 30 classic computers stuffed into my crawlspace, and I always have at least one set up and running at all times alongside my main Core i7 workhorse. I live in the Chicagoland area and I attend VCF Midwest and NOTACON when my schedule permits.
 
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Thanks for the intro. I like to see how different people approach computing - vintage or otherwise. To me that's the most interesting aspect of the VCF.
 
It should also be noted that Jim is the brains behind OldSkool.org, which has been around for quite a while now.


Mike
 
It should also be noted that Jim is the brains behind OldSkool.org, which has been around for quite a while now.
He's also the guy behind the Swcollect Google group, where folks who have every computer game ever produced and know more about them than you ever wanted to know discuss whether the latest $1000 'RARE' game on eBay is counterfeit or not, among other things; great resource if you collect games.

Thanks, Jim, for your many contributions to the hobby.
 
Hi and welcome,

Impressive resume you have there ;-) I have both the MindCandy DVDs and lots of demos as well, it's about all I used to watch on my 386/486 era computers (now i have lots of them working in DOSbox).

Dennis
 
Impressive resume you have there ;-) I have both the MindCandy DVDs and lots of demos as well, it's about all I used to watch on my 386/486 era computers (now i have lots of them working in DOSbox).

Both DVDs? (cough shamless plug cough) Why, there's a THIRD DVD now, ending the trilogy! Snag Yours Today!(TM)

If you would like a "best of" for demos for 386/486-era computers this might help: http://www.oldskool.org/pc/demos/explained/demo_reviews.html
I don't think the links work any more, but if you go to www.pouet.net and search for the name of the demo you'll definitely be able to find it. And if you can't, www.scene.org probably has them.

Thanks to everyone for the kind words.
 
Hehe, I saw that after I posted the above and googled on MindCandy :) Placed my order for the DVD/BlueRay immediately ;-)

Yeah, I did already download almost everything from scene.org and kept my favorite ones (like Second Reality from FC, but it always hangs at the "particle whirl" bit) and some other favorites are Dimension (RealTech), BugFixed (Acme) and HellRaiser (Megausters). Of course many many more ;-) All of them running in DOSbox (since my 486-66 died on me).

Dennis
 
Have you tried the patch?

Yep, tried that one too... same result :-( I remember the same thing happened on my 486-66 with GUS Max back in the day and the patch didn't seem to solve it then either. I do remember that I had it running after I did a DOS 6.2 DEFRAG, but that couldn't have been the solution... but in the end I had it working on my 486.

Now in DOSbox I get the exact same thing again. I was thinking maybe the GUS code made it hang, but this also happens when I choose SB Pro. Always hangs on the "particle whirl" bit.
 
Well, just tried the fix again and this is what happens:
secondreality-crash.jpg

As to the normal SECOND.EXE where the particle whirl runs for about two "loops" and then the screen freezes and music as well. 2NDFIX.EXE does the above after which DOSbox hangs (so the prompt doesn't work, I can only close DOSbox with the upper right X).
 
Try running it with fixed DOSBOX cycles, like 30000, instead of MAX. I seem to remember it crashes if the machine speed is too high.

Nope, no avail :-( I've tried 33000, 30000, 20000, 16000 and even 5000 cycles... tried vgaonly, svga_et4000 and svga_s3 for machine type. Set core type to normal and tried auto, 386_prefetch and 386 for cpu type. Even downsized the memory to 8MB, but always SECOND.EXE as well as 2NDFIX crash DOSbox at the particle whirl. Weird thing is that I can't find anything on this problem in the DOSbox forums and through google...
 
OK found this in google now: http://www.futurecrew.org/skaven/faq.html dunno why I didn't find that before, keywords "second reality dosbox" and it was the first result... anyhoo, according to this you need to disable the XMS, set the cycles to 5000 or 7000 and disable SB. Alas... still the same.

But I found out that you couldn't run it from more than one subdirectory level. I had my demos in C:\DEMOS\<demoname>. Now I've put Second Reality in C:\SECOND\ and it runs fine now with my default DOSbox-0.74.conf. Now that I think about it, that was also the problem BITD. I did a DEFRAG after I put Second Reality in C:\SECOND... so it wasn't the DEFRAG but the path. It works now... YAY!

BTW: Why didn't Second Reality make it onto one of the MC DVD's?? Or is it on MC3?
 
It's on MC1, including an easter egg with a "making of second reality" video (in Finnish, but you can clearly see what they're doing, including where they got their inspirations from). MC1 still in stock at www.mindcandydvd.com, Grab Yours Today!(tm)

I forgot about the path thing -- that is definitely the problem. Sorry for the wild goose chase, but glad you got it working.
 
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