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neutrino78x

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So, does anybody happen to have a text file around that has the ibm logo in extended ascii?? I'm talking about something like this:

Microsoft Adventure splash screen with IBM logo

I made one on MenuMaker back when I was 13, lol, but the 5150 is in storage right now...has been for a few months.

MenuMaker is an awesome program, written by Andrew Flugeman, one of the editors of PC World, for the book The Fully Powered PC. Basically, it is a full screen text editor, however, you only edit one screen, and you can set foreground and background colors, and it saves the file as a BSAVE file, so you can load it up in like 2 seconds, even on an 8088.

With that book, the PC World editors described a way that you could make the IBM PC work a lot faster by creating a ram disk and putting a macro program, BASICA, and COMMAND.COM in it, as well as menus created with MenuMaker. Then you could have a menu come up saying "<Alt>-<L> =====> Lotus 1-2-3" or something like that, and you would have a macro set up, so if you press Alt-L, Lotus comes up.

Of course, if you have a fast hard drive or CompactFlash drive in the 5150, you don't really need the RAM disk. :) But MenuMaker files still come up faster than ASCII, because it is loading the whole file and writing it directly to display memory. :)

But anyway, just for my own amusement, I was going to play around with the IBM logo in extended ascii, but I can't find on the internet where someone has made such a file. So, let me know if you have seen it!!

Especially, I want to know how many characters to put in each bar of the logo...

--Brian
 
MikeS said:
I've got the book; I don't suppose anybody's got an image of the disk or knows where I could find it?
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I have the disk!!!! And, I have MenuMaker on the hard drive on my 5150!!! Unfortunately, my 5150 is in storage right now; it is buried under other stuff. My dad lost the house in 2008, and the 8088 was put in storage at that time. :-(

Once I get access to it again, I will post MenuMaker on the internet. Flugeman wrote in the documentation "permission is granted to distribute for non-commercial purposes" or words to that effect.

btw there is a Revised and Expanded edition, which addressed the 286, and OS/2 (they didn't like OS/2, because it seemed designed to centralize PC power back in the IT division of corporations). It also has floppies, and also has menumaker. :)

I would be interested in making an enhanced version of menumaker, which can save files as either BSAVE, Text, or Text With ANSI Color Encoding. The last one would embed ANSI color commands, so if you did a type file.txt, you see the colors. I would also want to have a Linux/FreeBSD version of it. On UNIX, the BSAVE aspect would not work, but the ANSI code embedding should work (depending on how you have your terminal set up). It would be good for command line sessions in UNIX. :)

--Brian
 
Better yet, here is my code:

Code: 
100 DATA 40,-5
110 DATA 40,-5
120 DATA 2,7,1,9,3,4,9,4,1,-5
130 DATA 2,7,1,10,2,5,7,5,1,-5
140 DATA 2,7,1,11,1,6,5,6,1,-5
150 DATA 4,3,5,3,3,3,3,5,3,5,3,-5
160 DATA 4,3,5,3,3,3,3,6,1,6,3,-5
170 DATA 4,3,5,8,4,13,3,-5
180 DATA 4,3,5,7,5,13,3,-5
190 DATA 4,3,5,8,4,13,3,-5
200 DATA 4,3,5,3,3,3,3,13,3,-5
210 DATA 2,7,1,11,1,5,2,3,2,5,1,-5
220 DATA 2,7,1,10,2,5,3,1,3,5,1,-5
230 DATA 2,7,1,9,3,5,7,5,1,-5
240 DATA 40,-5
250 DATA 40,-4
260 COLOR 15,0:CLS
270 LOCATE 1,1:C$="Ü"
275 COLOR 15,1
280 READ A
290 IF A = -4  GOTO 340
300 IF A = -5 THEN C$="Ü":GOTO 330
310 IF C$=" " THEN C$="Ü" ELSE C$=" "
320 FOR I=1 TO A:PRINT C$;:NEXT I
330 GOTO 280
340 REM

Be sure to run it in 40 column mode.
 
neutrino78x said:
I have the disk!!!! And, I have MenuMaker on the hard drive on my 5150!!! Unfortunately, my 5150 is in storage right now; it is buried under other stuff. My dad lost the house in 2008, and the 8088 was put in storage at that time. :-(

Once I get access to it again, I will post MenuMaker on the internet. Flugeman wrote in the documentation "permission is granted to distribute for non-commercial purposes" or words to that effect.

--Brian
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That'd be great; thanks.
 
Yeah it is amazing to see the difference on an 8088 between displaying a menu/text file with TYPE, and displaying it with BLOAD in BASIC. Night and day! Like they said in the book, the difference between something coming up in 4 seconds and having it come up in 1 second is "striking". Now, with a 386, or maybe even a 286, you probably wouldn't notice it, and definitely with a modern PC, they are so fast that TYPE is pretty much instantaneous. But on an 8088, it makes a big difference. :)

--Brian
 
just to show off how nerdy I was in 7th+8th grade, I used to draw the IBM logo on my notebooks in school. other kids were drawing hearts or iron maiden logos, and I was big blue.
I'd actually tossed around the idea of getting it tattooed somewhere, but that might cross a line. :)
 
The elementary school I went to used a networking system from IBM...it loaded in DOS on PS/2 all-in-one machines. The login screen was blue and white 80x24 ASCII and displayed the IBM logo using extended ASCII.

The program /might/ have been IBM LAN Manager...I don't remember. I had a copy at one point from someone on the Obsolete Computer Helpline, but those disk images are long gone. Does anyone remember the name of the system?
 
neutrino78x said:
So, does anybody happen to have a text file around that has the ibm logo in extended ascii?? . . .
Especially, I want to know how many characters to put in each bar of the logo...
--Brian
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I guess you have a choice of using 223 or 220. I just did a rough copy of your example there using 220 and it came out OK. What I did notice though is that the number of characters per bar cannot be the same as that picture if you are using an 80 wide screen. Here is what I did: http://cgs.coalmont.net/ibm.zip

PS: For anybody else who might new to this: type "type ibm" and it will display. Put that in your autoexec.bat or other bats. The first and last line only works when ANSI is loaded - so remove them if it isn't. If you normally use white (instead of green text, change the 32 to a 37.
 
Ole Juul said:
I guess you have a choice of using 223 or 220. I just did a rough copy of your example there using 220 and it came out OK. What I did notice though is that the number of characters per bar cannot be the same as that picture if you are using an 80 wide screen. Here is what I did: http://cgs.coalmont.net/ibm.zip
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That is what I had in mind! Although, you are clearly right, that on an 80 column screen, you need fewer characters per bar. I will try reducing it by half.

PS: For anybody else who might new to this: type "type ibm" and it will display. Put that in your autoexec.bat or other bats. The first and last line only works when ANSI is loaded - so remove them if it isn't. If you normally use white (instead of green text, change the 32 to a 37.
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Yeah, those ANSI.SYS color encodings are what I envision a future Enhanced Menu Maker being able to do. That way you could save it as ASCII text, and when you display the file from the command line, you still see the colors.

--Brian
 
What was the program found on many genuine AT and PS/2 systems at schools that would bring up the ascii IBM logo.

All I remember about it was that you could get a launch list or hold alt and type E S C to get to DOS

Usually the teacher would launch Oregon Trail

As a kid I found it confusing to use unless I exited to DOS, systems may have been on token ring.
 
Hi SteveHere,
I used that file to setup the logo on my boot screen using Autoexec.bat
Thanks.

Screenshot 2023-09-03 at 5.46.03 PM.png
 
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Pretty simple really...from memory something like:
*n.b. this is for DOS 3.31

Type ibmlogo.ans (link to the file downloaded from SteveHere's link. There are some numbers in the file that I needed to delete)
C:\UTILS\AST\ASTCLOCK (You'll need an AST Six Pack card and the correct files for this)
Echo Microsoft(R) MS-DOS(R) Version 3.31
Echo (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1987
C:\DOS\DOSKEY (Version of 'DOSKEY' from here: https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/doskey-for-dos3-31.1244521/)
Echo Memory Available
C:\UTILS\MEM (I used 'MEM' from here https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/mem-command-for-older-dos-versions.21912/)
Pause

plus a few 'Echo[' to add line returns here and there to space things out evenly.

After "Strike a key when ready..." I have it so it launches Volkov Commander
 
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