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Seeking DEC BN25B-nn Optical Fiber Cable

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This is a twin/duplex cable of varying length with 100/140 um "multimode" cores and SMA-906 connectors. SMA-906 connectors have the stepped center-pin, compared to the SMA-905 which is a simpler straight pin. It's used, for example, by the LAN Bridge 100. It's also used by the VS100, one of which I am working to restore.

For additional information see pages 169 through 335 (of 452) in http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/co...s_Options_Minireference_Manual_Vol7_Aug88.pdf

Probably it has an orange sheath so it would be somewhat distinctive in your tangled pile of cables :-}.

Thank you for looking,
paul
 
I'm reliably informed that the cable actually has a light beige jacket (not orange), so not so easy to spot :-{. But the duplex nature will certainly help!
 
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Cool -- I'm looking at the LAN Bridge 200 on eBay right now, I'm guessing it uses a similar type of fibre-optic cable?

-Chris
 
I'd be interested if you find a source. I currently have Dale Luck's VS100 and I bought the unibus board, but don't have the cable
Are you going to try using this with DECwindows, or did an early X surface (trying to remember if X10 still supported it)
 
This is a twin/duplex cable of varying length with 100/140 um "multimode" cores and SMA-906 connectors. SMA-906 connectors have the stepped center-pin, compared to the SMA-905 which is a simpler straight pin. It's used, for example, by the LAN Bridge 100. It's also used by the VS100, one of which I am working to restore.

For additional information see pages 169 through 335 (of 452) in http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/co...s_Options_Minireference_Manual_Vol7_Aug88.pdf

Probably it has an orange sheath so it would be somewhat distinctive in your tangled pile of cables :-}.

Thank you for looking,
paul
Have you tried the following company? I've bought many hard-to-find DEC cables from them... prices are fairly reasonable. I deal with Barbara, she's great!
[HTTP://SEADEC.COM]

A quick inventory search brings up the following, not sure if any of these will work?
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-Chris
 
Have you tried the following company? I've bought many hard-to-find DEC cables from them... prices are fairly reasonable. I deal with Barbara, she's great!
[HTTP://SEADEC.COM]

-Chris
Thanks for the suggestion Chris, I had looked there but they don't stock the BN25B ... which is definitely different than the BN25J "FIB/OP CBL" that they do stock :-<. I did send an inquiry anyway.
 
Cool -- I'm looking at the LAN Bridge 200 on eBay right now, I'm guessing it uses a similar type of fibre-optic cable?

-Chris
Similar only in the vaguest sense. See the DEC document that I referenced, page 218 of 452. It uses a later design cable with a different (62.5/125 um) core and different (ST) connectors -- the BN25J-xx which, as it happens _is_ stocked by your favorite distributor.
 
I'd be interested if you find a source. I currently have Dale Luck's VS100 and I bought the unibus board, but don't have the cable
Are you going to try using this with DECwindows, or did an early X surface (trying to remember if X10 still supported it)
If I find a sourceI will certainly point it out; it's early days and patience is a virtue :-}. I'm assuming DECwindows but an early X would certainly be interesting; the oldest that I have personal experience with was X10R4 on an IBM PC-RT. But first I need to complete restoration work on an 11/750 host for the VS100 controller ...
 
Thanks for the suggestion Chris, I had looked there but they don't stock the BN25B ... which is definitely different than the BN25J "FIB/OP CBL" that they do stock :-<. I did send an inquiry anyway.
No dice. By inference I believe that the BN25C-xx is the plenum-safe version of the BN25B-xx.

BTW, they do have not-reasonable prices on the BN25J-xx that you'll need:

-10 $25
-20 $35
-50 $75

Those lengths are in meters.
 
Update: No luck finding a DEC-official cable. It does appear that a DEC BN25C-nn would be a plenum-safe equivalent cable.

After yet more research and putting together somewhat ambiguous statements from various source documents I concluded that the point to the SMA-906 design with the stepped ferrule is to support end-to-end extension where a sleeve over the in-line stepped-ends is used to exactly align the cable cores. There are "SMA to SMA Mating Sleeve" products (e.g.: https://www.thorlabs.com/newgrouppage9.cfm?objectgroup_id=314&pn=ADASMA) that consist of a threaded shell and a center full-length sleeve for this purpose -- apparently typically used through-bulkhead to couple an internal cable to an external one.

My working hypothesis is that DEC originally specified the BN25B-xx SMA-906 ended cable for use with the LAN Bridge 100 and/or “FOCFA/FOCMA-AA RS-232 to fiber optic converter”, and then just specified it again for the VS100 to avoid a set of separate stock numbers. I guess that it came with the Delrin sleeve installed and one optionally removed it for end-to-end connections. I can imagine that one might want to extend a VS100 cable but I’ve found no evidence of a DEC stock number for an SMA-to-SMA fiber adapter; maybe they expected one to obtain one third-party in such circumstances?

It seems to be the case that the SMA-906 terminator-connector is routinely used with a SMA-905 bulkhead female receptacle by adding a short sleeve. And that there is no SMA-906 specific bulkhead female receptacle. I’ve found this description that seems to apply: “When installing SMA 906 connector into SMA 905, a half-length alignment sleeve must be installed on the end of SMA 906 ferrule.” Thus the routine inclusion of a Delrin(?) sleeve in various photos such that the SMA-906 terminator-connector acts like a SMA-905

So I bought this https://www.ebay.com/itm/304673572144 100/140 cable with SMA-906 ends. 77 meters is rather more than my desired length! The SMA-906 terminator-connectors fit smoothly and snugly into the VS100 bulkhead female connectors. Success. A flashlight demonstrates cable continuity in both directions. I'm not yet in a position to try putting the cable into service, but it looks very promising :->.

So if you have the same need I suggest leaving an eBay query running based on "100/140 fiber optic cable". You'll still have to look at photos to determine the connector type (vendors don't always include that information; mine certainly didn't), but that's pretty easy. Getting the right core size/design is key.
 
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