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UPDATE on the SMS11 CALAY disk file Archive.
The system boots solidly into RT11SJ V4.

I want to capture all 503 files (binary and otherwise) down to my PC for preservation FIRST!

Some have suggested PDP11GUI but I dont see any specifics on downloading files, am I missing some basic load and save function??

This system has KERMIT T2.18
and I've used Teraterm's kermit protocol and can read individual files that are ASCII but binary .SAV files go for a while then stall, saving no bytes.
Yes, the file type is set to BINARY. So, I've only got some cad files that are ASCII. Attached are some to see (renamed as .jpg)

I'm open to all suggests to save this data before the drive crashes.

Here is a Kermit session:

----------------------------------------------
.R KERMIT
Kermit-11 T2.18
Kermit-11?SET LINE 2
Link device set to 2
Kermit-11?SET SPEED 2400
Kermit-11?SET FILE BINARY
Kermit-11?SET BLOCK 3


Kermit-11?set line 0
Link device set to 0
Kermit-11?show all

3-Character-CRC-CCITT
No debugging or logging is active
Directory for send opens and receive creates: none
Delay time before sending SEND-INIT 6
Connection escape character set to ^\
Filetype set to BINARY
Current remote link device name is 0
The current speed for the link is 50 baud
SEND packet eol character 000015 (octal)
SEND maximum packet size 94
SEND/RECEIVE packet timeout 10
RETRY maximum for packets 8

Packet counts from the last transaction

Packet type Sent Rec Sent Rec

All types 0 0 0 0

Pause time before packet transmission 0
Created files will be Stream Ascii
The time is
Kermit-11 T2.18

Kermit-11?HELP
CAN'T OPEN THE KERMIT-11 HELP FILE - File not found
PRINTING DEFAULT COMMAND LIST TEXT

DEFAULT KERMIT-11 HELP TEXT

@ FILESPEC
BYE
CONNECT
DIRECT FILESPEC
DISCONNECT
EXIT
FINISH
GET FILESPEC
HANGUP
HELP TOPIC
LOCAL KERMIT COMMAND NAME
QUIT
RECEIVE FILENAME

REMOTE BYE
REMOTE FINISH
REMOTE GET
REMOTE SPACE

RENAME OLDNAME NEWNAME
SEND FILESPEC
SERVER

SET BLOCK-CHECK 1-CHARACTER-CHECKSUM
SET BLOCK-CHECK 2-CHARACTER-CHECKSUM
SET BLOCK-CHECK 3-CHARACTER-CRC-CCITT

SET DEBUG ALL
SET DEBUG CONSOLE
SET DEBUG CONNECT
SET DEBUG FILE
SET DEBUG HELP
SET DEBUG NONE
SET DEBUG OFF
SET DEBUG ON
SET DEBUG PACKET
SET DEBUG STATE

SET DEFAULT DEV:[UIC]
SET DIRECTORY DEV:[UIC]
SET DTR
SET END-OF-LINE OCTAL VALUE
SET ESCAPE OCTAL VALUE
SET FILETYPE BINARY OR ASCII
SET HANGUP
SET HOME
SET LINE DEVICE NAME
SET LOGFILE FILENAME.TYPE
SET PACKET-LENGTH DECIMAL VALUE
SET PARITY
SET PAUSE DECIMAL NUMBER
SET RETRY DECIMAL NUMBER
SET SPEED DECIMAL NUMBER
SET TIMEOUT DECIMAL NUMBER

SHOW ALL
SHOW BLOCK-CHECK-TYPE
SHOW DEBUG
SHOW DEFAULT
SHOW DIRECTORY
SHOW ESCAPE
SHOW FILETYPE
SHOW LINE
SHOW PACKET
SHOW PARAMETERS
SHOW TIME
SHOW VERSION

SPACE
SYSTEM CCL/DCL/MCR COMMAND
TAKE FILENAME.TYPE
TYPE FILENAME.TYPE

NOTE THAT KERMIT-11 WILL ACCEPT WILDCARD FILE SPECIFICATIONS FOR
BOTH THE SEND COMMAND AND THE SERVER GET COMMAND, AS IN SEND *.MAC
OR, FROM A LOCAL KERMIT TALKING TO KERMIT-11 AS A SERVER, GET *.MAC

Kermit-11?
 
Attached is a file that WAS .LST on the Calay machine, I renamed to .TXT so I could attach here.
 

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Here is CALAY.BAK

%CONFIGURATION FOR CALAY USA

SPRACHE ENGLISCH
PROZESSOR QBUS 23
WORKFILESIZE 300
LIZENZNUMMER 25
MEMORYGROESSE 836

DEVICE 0 VT52
DEVICE 1 BIDP40
DEVICE 2 VT52

UNIT C MIL % COORDINATE
UNIT S MIL % SIZES
%DEVICE 4 BIDP40
GRAPHIK 5 GDP641
GRAPHIK 6 H758X
%GRAPHIK 8 GDP641
ENDE
 
On the back of this SMS there are 8 RS232 ports connected to 2 quad port QBus boards.

The 4th one down is my console at 9600 baud. That's obviously line 0.
So which connectors would be logically connected to 1 and 2?
This physical arrangement doesn't make sense.
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Semi-weird, this distribution board (1 PCB with 8 DB25) from top to bottom appears to be ports 3,2,1,0 (Console),7,6,5,4.
With females on 3,2,0,7 and males 1,4,5,6.
I realize the 40 pin cables could be switched, and the board switched, but that's not how this was made.
Can anyone explain the genders? These ports all act like DCE.
 
So here's part of what's going on with my 8 serial ports, these 4-port serial boards from Sigma are numbered opposite of DEC's DLV11-J.
This sigma board has the port numbers from left to right J4, J3, J2, J1, and DECs is J1, J2, J3, J4. You'd think if someone was gonna clone a board they'd put the ports in the same order. lol

So my console is 3

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Good luck transferring megabytes that way w/o errors
Not ideal, but when there are no other options .. And as I already wrote - if there is a hard disk driver dump - I can try to build an image for booting through the BT52 emulator, and there the actual speed will be higher and checks are made during transmission. Plus - there will be a copy of the entire hard drive, not just files.
 
Hi Ragnarock,
Könnten Sie bitte so freundlich sein, ein Foto von den Jumpern und den umwickelten Kabeln des 851-Diskettenlaufwerks zu machen? Ich versuche derzeit, ein SMS-FWT-System wiederherzustellen, das die gleiche Controller-Platine (Formatierer) wie Ihr SMS11X hat.
Thanks in advance and kind regards,
// Peter
 

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Hi Ragnarock,
Könnten Sie bitte so freundlich sein, ein Foto von den Jumpern und den umwickelten Kabeln des 851-Diskettenlaufwerks zu machen? Ich versuche derzeit, ein SMS-FWT-System wiederherzustellen, das die gleiche Controller-Platine (Formatierer) wie Ihr SMS11X hat.
Thanks in advance and kind regards,
// Peter

Hallo Peter, dies ist ein englischsprachiges Forum, nicht jeder Texaner spricht Deutsch (und möchte G translate nutzen)...
pls write in english :)
 
Hi Ragnarock,
this time in English :)
Could you please be so kind as to take a picture of the jumpers and the wrapped cables of the 851 floppy drive?
I am currently trying to restore an SMS FWT system which has the same controller board (formatterer) as your SMS11X.
Thanks in advance and kind regards,
// Peter
 

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