Ultimate Pentium Build

[Zare]

Something like this seems worth getting if you can

HP 010391-001 Motherboard w/ 4 x Pentium 3 Xeon SL4XX CPUs TESTED | eBay

4 x SL4XX Pentium III Xeon CPUs. Type: Motherboard. Before we list an item we power test it if it requires power, if it is a motherboard we test it while in the system before dismantling, if it is a peripheral device that we can test on or in a system we do.

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[twolazy]

The slowest PII is 233 MHz, not 266 MHz.

Actually there was a PII 200mhz based off the original Klamath core. Not sure how many were actually sold, but have seen a few engineering samples for insane prices.

 

[GiGaBiTe]

Actually there was a PII 200mhz based off the original Klamath core. Not sure how many were actually sold, but have seen a few engineering samples for insane prices.

Would be interesting to see a picture of one, I can't find anything about it, even on CPU World.

Are you sure you're not confusing it for the uncommon Slot 1 to Socket 8 slotkets? Those allowed Pentium Pro 200s to be used in some Slot 1 motherboards.

 

[GiGaBiTe]

Okay, I confess, ai just couldn't resist this MOBO, some of the very best MB experiences I have had are with genuine Intel MBs and chipsets. Maybe this might become a dual OS machine, out of period curiosity!

When I looked at value and versatility, this was too much resist!

I wouldn't call $450 a good deal, especially for a crappy Intel Desktop Board. It doesn't have an AGP slot either, so you're also crippled on graphics performance. If you're lucky, maybe those PCI-X slots run at 66 MHz and they could be used with a PCI Voodoo4/5 that can take advantage of it.

 

[EverStaR]

I wouldn't call $450 a good deal, especially for a crappy Intel Desktop Board. It doesn't have an AGP slot either, so you're also crippled on graphics performance. If you're lucky, maybe those PCI-X slots run at 66 MHz and they could be used with a PCI Voodoo4/5 that can take advantage of it.

Ahh, that's a good point if not a bit harsh, lol. It will work out with a decent PCI video card, remember, I am only going for Win 98 on this future box, I already have a Core Duo 3.1 DUO I will be using with XP. So I will have this plus a 486 VLB, ISA, PCI killer sound setup, and then this tweener that will like be more OS specific. This is more of a project of building it because you can and nostalgia! I will probably make this more of an OS system! When I look at periods and systems, I could have skipped this one if not for W98. So this will end up W98, and XP to leverage the second CPU and I will merely play mostly with OS's on this one! I didnt see much point in the AGP slots. Oh, I got this for $200 by via messaging the seller! Price was also in Canadian, a steel in USD.

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[twolazy]

Sadly the Engineering Sample website is down atm, but they do list it in the update logs...

I just added 6 new ES CPU. Here is the complete list :

* Cyrix MXi 133 MHz ES
* Cyrix MXi 233 MHz ES
* Cyrix MegiaGX 266 MHz ES
* Pentium II 400 MHz ES
* Pentium II 200 MHz ES
* Pentium 133 MHz ES

 

[GiGaBiTe]

Ahh, that's a good point if not a bit harsh, lol. It will work out with a decent PCI video card, remember, I am only going for Win 98 on this future box

Windows 98 won't even see the second CPU, $200 for a crippled 98 box, sheesh.

An AGP slot is critically important, that onboard Rage XL is going to cause you a ton of headaches.

 

[Zare]

$200 is still high.
Like GiGaBiTe says you got a Penitum 3 Tualatin on Windows 98 for $200, on a non AGP-board. $100 is entire Pentium 2 case with some 3D AGP GPU. It will outperform twice the expensive P3 in a ton of games.

Rage XL is a typical server embedded VGA, this system isn't good for any task apart server (not counting it being a collectible) on W2K advanced, W2K3, or some Unix-like OS.

This is the barrier I have with getting those systems. I would consider buying that board for ~100-150e initially, but train of thought kicks in as I have two powerful "vintage" built cases that aren't used for anything because their optimal use is a server. And almost noone runs vintage servers as servers. If they have any significant processing power, they'll be big, noisy, power hungry, and really inconvenient to run at home. If they don't, like this dual P3 board, their performance will be way below a NUC clone.

 

[EverStaR]

$200 is still high.
Like GiGaBiTe says you got a Penitum 3 Tualatin on Windows 98 for $200, on a non AGP-board. $100 is entire Pentium 2 case with some 3D AGP GPU. It will outperform twice the expensive P3 in a ton of games.

Windows 98 won't even see the second CPU, $200 for a crippled 98 box, sheesh.

An AGP slot is critically important, that onboard Rage XL is going to cause you a ton of headaches.

So this will end up W98, and XP to leverage the second CPU and I will merely play mostly with OS's on this one! I didn't see much point in the AGP slots. Oh, I got this for $200 by via messaging the seller! Price was also in Canadian, a steel in USD.

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Please read what I wrote, and Intel has always had great stability, which matters when we are talking about these older machines. I have had a few Intel MB's in my day and they by far were some of the best I ever experienced, extremely stable, well supported drivers. This is a for fun tweener machine, likely mostly to run operating systems, not play games. I will also probably run ARCA OS, OS2 Modern Version with Multi CPU support.

 

[Zare]

Please see the ebay listing I posted, you could get at least twice more powerful system of same generation for less money.

Edit : Thx for mentioning ARCA I didn't know of it, looks quite interesting, gonna try it on Core 2

 

[EverStaR]

Please see the ebay listing I posted, you could get at least twice more powerful system of same generation for less money.

Edit : Thx for mentioning ARCA I didn't know of it, looks quite interesting, gonna try it on Core 2

I did see that listing, but I don't like HP and too much to go wrong with that one. Just my two cents, every HP I had turned out to be horrible.

 

[Chuck(G)]

I have several HPs and they all work. There is a difference, however. Some HPs use third-party motherboards; others are HP-specific. Same for Compaq.

 

[hunterjwizzard]

Please see the ebay listing I posted, you could get at least twice more powerful system of same generation for less money.

That's actually a fantastic price and would be a great project, but its not standard ATX so you're looking at having to build a custom case.


As or graphics: consider the PCI-X Matrox Parhelia. It is at least interesting.

 

[Unknown_K]

As or graphics: consider the PCI-X Matrox Parhelia. It is at least interesting.

Good luck finding one of those cheap.

 

[EverStaR]

Good luck finding one of those cheap.

Just nabbed one for $69! So we'll see, but again, I have very very low expectations for this system build. Its more for fun!

 

[hunterjwizzard]

Just nabbed one for $69! So we'll see, but again, I have very very low expectations for this system build. Its more for fun!

You're sure its PCI-X and not PCIe? I haven't seen an X listed for less than $200 recently. Still good on you, its probably the best PCI-X card out there and a real collector's item.

Plus, if you find the adapters, you can do 4:3 surround gaming!

 

[EverStaR]

There are mNy out there, but I got this one through a back channel, same guy I got my Dells core duos from for $69. His whole 3 car garage is full of stuff. Anyway, on flebay the are going for $169 from China. There are 3 or 4 postings there as well.

This was a good recommendation, this will be an interesting critter.

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[Agent Orange]

You're sure its PCI-X and not PCIe? I haven't seen an X listed for less than $200 recently. Still good on you, its probably the best PCI-X card out there and a real collector's item.

Plus, if you find the adapters, you can do 4:3 surround gaming!

Note that PCIe mobo/slots support Pentium 4, Celeron and Celeron D processors, but not the dual core Pentium D processors.

 

[EverStaR]

Note that PCIe mobo/slots support Pentium 4, Celeron and Celeron D processors, but not the dual core Pentium D processors.

This is a P3 378MB, not a P4.

 

[GiGaBiTe]

Note that PCIe mobo/slots support Pentium 4, Celeron and Celeron D processors, but not the dual core Pentium D processors.

Huh? Are you talking about a specific motherboard? Because this is completely false.

There were innumerable motherboards that had PCIe slots that worked with the Pentium D processor. Here's one out of thousands of examples:

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I have this board and it supports from the 533 MHz FSB P4 all the way up to 1333 MHz FSB Core 2 Quads. Not that I'd recommend using it with a Pentium D, because they're power hungry furnaces that have terrible performance.

This is a P3 378MB, not a P4.

PGA370*