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Agent Orange

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My XP Pro 32-bit gamer has been up and running for a while now, and I really get a kick put of playing Half Life, one of my favorites. The other day I needed to dupe a CD for a RMI on my recent tail bone surgery. As it turned out, the only PC or laptop in the house that was up and running with a CD-ROM was on my XP gamer. I attempted to open the CD and instead received an error stating that in order to see or run the MRI CD I need to upgrade to .Net FrameWork 4.0. I did a search with Mozilla and found a site where you don't have to subscribe or buy anything. The download and installation went without issue and I was able to read the CD and copy the contents to a desktop folder. I then opened IMGBurn, inserted a blank, CD and the burn was completed in a matter of minutes with the familiar 'pop goes the weasel' tune at the finish. What's nice about my XP setup, aside from gaming, it's still capable of browsing and performing useful tasks. Long live XP (and it has).
 
.NET 4.0 was available to XP via Windows Update, back in the day. I assume most XP owners would have installed it.
 
.NET 4.0 was available to XP via Windows Update, back in the day. I assume most XP owners would have installed it.
As you said, back in the day. But this is a recent install and it's a long way from 'back in the day'. I don't think any form of .Net Framework was ever included with XP. Leaves me wondering what your point is.
 
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Netframework was needed for 3rd party graphics cards (ATI at least from what I recall). Its one of those things that either you need it or you don't.
 
Netframework was needed for 3rd party graphics cards (ATI at least from what I recall). Its one of those things that either you need it or you don't.
You don't need it unless you need it. Net 4.0 is not available from MS and you have to search the net for it. That was my point. Nothing is easy software-wise when starting from scratch on a XP build these days.
 
I recall that net framework was required for one of the CD-R burning packages under XP. (CDBurnerXP)
Exactly. And if you don't keep a personal library of these old utilities (mine is very limited) you find yourself on the hunt.
 
You don't need it unless you need it. Net 4.0 is not available from MS and you have to search the net for it. That was my point. Nothing is easy software-wise when starting from scratch on a XP build these days.
Isn't it available here (as well as other versions)?
 
Last place you want to go is to the Microsoft site unless your looking for present;y supported OS's. You need to hunt and the was kind of the purpose of the thread.
I'm curious; why would the Microsoft site be the last place that you would look? OK, I'm really not that curious, but, no matter, suit yourself.

In any event, .NET Framework 4.0 appears to be available there, both the runtime and the offline installer. Now, I did not attempt to install them on my XP system because I had been doing that during update times back in the day, so who knows maybe it wouldn't work for you anyways..
 
What browser do you use for browsing Orange?

@Unknown_K - awesome link .. thanks!
I'm using Mozilla on the XP machine and have dabbled in others but Mozilla gets it donE for searches and download support for my XP machine. Don't bother with it for much else. I don't know of any XP browsers that support secure or HTTPS for this old OS and that's a shame.
 
I'm curious; why would the Microsoft site be the last place that you would look? OK, I'm really not that curious, but, no matter, suit yourself.

In any event, .NET Framework 4.0 appears to be available there, both the runtime and the offline installer. Now, I did not attempt to install them on my XP system because I had been doing that during update times back in the day, so who knows maybe it wouldn't work for you anyways..
Hey, you won't find it anywhere on the MS site. Yes, it's out there, but you will have to look for it and just won't jump up and bite you in the tail. Some sites want you to subscribe or buy something. I want free. Check it out.
 
Hey, you won't find it anywhere on the MS site. Yes, it's out there, but you will have to look for it and just won't jump up and bite you in the tail. Some sites want you to subscribe or buy something. I want free. Check it out.
I did check it out.
I found it on an MS site in less than a minute.
It is available on the MS site and I posted the link - here it is again https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet-framework/net40
They did not ask me to subscribe or ask me for $$
I downloaded and saved the runtime if I ever need it. As I mentioned, they also have the offline installer version.

I just don't know what you are talking about but as long as you got your situation squared away, it's all good.
 
I did check it out.
I found it on an MS site in less than a minute.
It is available on the MS site and I posted the link - here it is again https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet-framework/net40
They did not ask me to subscribe or ask me for $$
I downloaded and saved the runtime if I ever need it. As I mentioned, they also have the offline installer version.

I just don't know what you are talking about but as long as you got your situation squared away, it's all good.
I've got egg on my face. I stopped at their disclaimer of at the top of the page "No longer supported". Easy mistake when you are old like me. Anyway, it doesn't matter. The key point was the if you needed Net 4.0 you would have to look for it which I did. Not included with the original XP package. You are excused. (lol)
 
Microsoft has made it increasingly difficult to find older updates and software on their website over the years by constantly shuffling things around, but most of it is still available going back to the XP era at least.

The land mines are "web install" and "express install" where the update is a downloader that references a long removed location, or if it still exists, doesn't work because the OS doesn't support modern SSL/TLS and fails.
 
I use MS-DOS or W98-DOS so I can program the various I/O port directly using Turbo Pascal. But to exchange data I use XP as a second OS so I can use my network. A very good example is my CBM-HD project where an ex thin client emulates an ancient Commodore 9060 HDD (scroll to the bottom for the pictures). I use the LPT and COM port to emulate the IEEE port and use the network to exchange data and complete floppy drive images.
 
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