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New 5 1/4” Floppy Disks

i can tell you MOST of the cds i have burned in the late 90s and early 00s dont read anymore even though they have little to no scratches. and alot of the dvds i burned 10 yeara ago are giving me trouble.
I have had some mid 1990s CDs that seemed unreadable. No physical damage. The issue, I think, was something with the way the Windows 3.1 burning software wrote them - newer CD/DVD drives will just sit there and never become ready with these disks in the drive. But older CD/DVD drives (early 00s) will read them perfectly.
 
A couple of (not so) quick points.

As has been mentioned, some of this media was crap when it was new. Aging it for 30 years or so can't have improved it much. We're not talking about fine wines here LOL. I distinctly remember a brand new 5.25" floppy from INMAC fouling the heads on the drive right out of the box. When the second one did the same the whole box went in the trash. That was on my (then new) Heathkit H89 so figure late 80's. Towards the tail end of the "floppy era" I bought a white box of 50 3.5" supposedly preformated and tested disks that wouldn't hold data for a week, much less tens of years.

My mother recently passed at the well earned age of 94. In her 60's, she got bit hard by the Genealogy bug, drug my retired father to libraries all over the USA, Canada, and the UK, published two books, and taught herself computers in order to keep it all organized. In disposing of her effects, I ended up with several hundred 3.5" floppies of research notes, backups, and the WordPerfect text of her books. The relevance to this discussion is that I've been archiving the lot in order to pass it on to any of her descendants who might want it. The oldest disk I've seen so far was written in 1989. The newest was written in 2002. They're primarily from Scotch/3M with some Memorex, TDK, and Sony in the mix. Using dd under Ubuntu 20.04, I've been able to recover 100% of the contents of all but three disks. Even ddrescue was unable to do a complete recovery of those three. The good news is that the failing disks were from backup sets and she was apparently in the habit of doing each backup twice. So in all three cases the data that was unrecoverable from one set was recoverable from the other. All three problem disks were from Memorex.
 
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Inmac changed suppliers at some point. I have boxes of Inmac disks that work perfectly even now and other boxes where not a disk was readable.

I wish I had enough disks to get a representative sample within in a brand across the various grades of disks. Were the expensive Verbatim Data Life Plus better than the cheap plain Verbatim disks?

It was interesting tracking how the shells got thinner over time with even the high priced brands having thinner 3.5" shells in 2000 than the budget brands did in 1990 and all having thinner shells than the IBM disks from 1987.
 
This is the Amazon listing I got my latest batch of disks from.


They're a bit pricey, yes, but from my understanding these disks are newly manufactured.
 
I routinely get in disks from the late 70s. If good quality, no issues. If garbage, well...

I recall doing a job that involved about 30 DSDD floppies. About the first 15 were branded 3M that read without a problem. After that, it was "white box" unbranded ones--and it was a very different story. After about the first 10 cylinders, the data started "disappearing"--even using bit-transition attempts at recovery failed. The magnetization had simply left the building, as verified using a magnetic developer (Kyread).

I recall that MEI/Micro Center was infamous during the 1980s for bagging up and selling what amounted to floor sweepings.
 
I have had some mid 1990s CDs that seemed unreadable. No physical damage. The issue, I think, was something with the way the Windows 3.1 burning software wrote them - newer CD/DVD drives will just sit there and never become ready with these disks in the drive. But older CD/DVD drives (early 00s) will read them perfectly.
They could be using the old High Sierra format, which is incompatible with modern versions of Windows and Mac OS:

 
There was a change in the way they made media around the DVDR era with respect to dye reflectivity so modern drives might have issues reading old recordables.
 
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